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They don’t mention hospitalization or deaths. Those are the two to keep track of. I’m guessing far more people are getting tested than previously, hence the lar

by vondur 6y ago

They don’t mention hospitalization or deaths. Those are the two to keep track of. I’m guessing far more people are getting tested than previously, hence the larger numbers.

troydavis 6y ago
> I’m guessing far more people are getting tested than previously, hence the larger numbers. Nationally that may be a contributing factor, but in hotspot states, the % of tests which are positive has actually gone up significantly: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states and select Florida or Arizona
ketanmaheshwari 6y ago
The deaths are increasing too. 2500+ people passed away yesterday (June 25) in the US.
- fullshark 6y ago
  From all causes? Covid number is lower https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
  - Marsymars 6y ago
    That can't be from all causes, there are around 8,000 deaths per day in the US from all causes.
- averros 6y ago
  The deaths ATTRIBUTED to COVID-19. Not necessarily deaths FROM it. The difference is huge, as vast majority of people reported as died from COVID-19 were, in fact, seriously ill already, so the viral infection was a minor factor (or a last straw). Considering that hospitals have financial incentives to attribute deaths to COVID-19 thanks to the government largesse, it is not surprising that all these ambiguous cases are reported as COVID-19 deaths now. For all other illnesses the standards for reporting are quite different.
msbarnett 6y ago
The % of tests that are coming back positive is increasing, which is a good indication that the growth we're seeing is due to a growth in infections, and not just growth in testing
mikedilger 6y ago
Those are immune to the sampling rate bias, but they are lagging indicators. Based on the recent widespread failures to socially distance (e.g. George Floyd protests, campaign rallys, etc), I suspect those lagging charts will start trending upwards. You can also correct for the sampling rate bias by looking at the number of cases per 100,000 tests (or similar). Does anyone have a link tracking that? EDIT: percentage positive tests: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states
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- danaliv 6y ago
  Areas with BLM actions have not seen an increase in rates of infection. https://www.popsci.com/story/health/black-lives-matter-protests-covid-19-transmission/ https://www.popsci.com/story/health/black-lives-matter-prote...
  - AnimalMuppet 6y ago
    That seems... very suspicious. I doubt that the virus cares what the reason for a large gathering is. I don't think the BLM actions were using proper social distancing. But what does that leave? People who went haven't bothered to get tested since? Everybody wore masks, and that's way more effective than we thought? The gatherings were outside, and the Vitamin D is saving everyone?
    - derbOac 6y ago
      There have been epi efforts to oversample people in the blm protests specifically to examine its impact on infection rates and find it didn't matter. They didn't have an explanation but suspected it had to do with the protests mostly being outdoors.
      - amanaplanacanal 6y ago
hcknwscommenter 6y ago
It took me 10 minutes to get over my shock at your comment. Information entirely refuting your "guess" that the larger numbers are due to more people being tested is available at your fingertips. It takes about a second to google, click and read this information. I think you may be the victim of propaganda. You would do well to rethink your information sources and implicit biases.
playingchanges 6y ago
Daily covid hospitalizations have doubled over the past month in Texas. https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/tmc-daily-new-covid-19-hospitalizations/ https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/tmc-daily-new-covid-...

by vondur 6y ago

They don’t mention hospitalization or deaths. Those are the two to keep track of. I’m guessing far more people are getting tested than previously, hence the larger numbers.

troydavis 6y ago

> I’m guessing far more people are getting tested than previously, hence the larger numbers. Nationally that may be a contributing factor, but in hotspot states, the % of tests which are positive has actually gone up significantly: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states and select Florida or Arizona

ketanmaheshwari 6y ago

The deaths are increasing too. 2500+ people passed away yesterday (June 25) in the US.

fullshark 6y ago
From all causes? Covid number is lower https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
- Marsymars 6y ago
  That can't be from all causes, there are around 8,000 deaths per day in the US from all causes.
averros 6y ago
The deaths ATTRIBUTED to COVID-19. Not necessarily deaths FROM it. The difference is huge, as vast majority of people reported as died from COVID-19 were, in fact, seriously ill already, so the viral infection was a minor factor (or a last straw). Considering that hospitals have financial incentives to attribute deaths to COVID-19 thanks to the government largesse, it is not surprising that all these ambiguous cases are reported as COVID-19 deaths now. For all other illnesses the standards for reporting are quite different.

msbarnett 6y ago

The % of tests that are coming back positive is increasing, which is a good indication that the growth we're seeing is due to a growth in infections, and not just growth in testing

mikedilger 6y ago

Those are immune to the sampling rate bias, but they are lagging indicators. Based on the recent widespread failures to socially distance (e.g. George Floyd protests, campaign rallys, etc), I suspect those lagging charts will start trending upwards. You can also correct for the sampling rate bias by looking at the number of cases per 100,000 tests (or similar). Does anyone have a link tracking that? EDIT: percentage positive tests: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states

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danaliv 6y ago
Areas with BLM actions have not seen an increase in rates of infection. https://www.popsci.com/story/health/black-lives-matter-protests-covid-19-transmission/ https://www.popsci.com/story/health/black-lives-matter-prote...
- AnimalMuppet 6y ago
  That seems... very suspicious. I doubt that the virus cares what the reason for a large gathering is. I don't think the BLM actions were using proper social distancing. But what does that leave? People who went haven't bothered to get tested since? Everybody wore masks, and that's way more effective than we thought? The gatherings were outside, and the Vitamin D is saving everyone?
  - derbOac 6y ago
    There have been epi efforts to oversample people in the blm protests specifically to examine its impact on infection rates and find it didn't matter. They didn't have an explanation but suspected it had to do with the protests mostly being outdoors.
    - amanaplanacanal 6y ago

hcknwscommenter 6y ago

It took me 10 minutes to get over my shock at your comment. Information entirely refuting your "guess" that the larger numbers are due to more people being tested is available at your fingertips. It takes about a second to google, click and read this information. I think you may be the victim of propaganda. You would do well to rethink your information sources and implicit biases.

playingchanges 6y ago

Daily covid hospitalizations have doubled over the past month in Texas. https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/tmc-daily-new-covid-19-hospitalizations/ https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/tmc-daily-new-covid-...