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It's funny that you claim I come from a social environment where people are 'more fragile' when I consider it simply basic respect to call people what they want

It's funny that you claim I come from a social environment where people are 'more fragile' when I consider it simply basic respect to call people what they want. It seems like you managed to completely ignore my John / Johnny example as well, so I think it's becoming clearer that you're not really here to debate in good faith. Also personally, one of the red flags I find in difficult people is those that choose to stereotype an entire group. Usually they'll end up causing further problems down the line by not wanting to work as a team or ostracizing said members they stereotype.

blueflow 6y ago
Do you know why i ignored it? Like, when im with other adults, the tone is much harsher sometimes, especially when we are drunk. So you need to have the skin for that, which is generally a useful trait in life. So i assumed your argument featuring a fragile cis man was due to a lack of social experience. Did i stereotype an entire group? I explicitly stated that i have problems with a specific behaviour from a part of a group, and explicitly told that parts of the group don't exhibit this behaviour. You ignored that. I said that i was leaving communities due to this behaviour. I'm the one leaving, not the transgender people. I'm, at most, ostracizing myself. And then you come and go accuse me of arguing in bad faith. Seriously. You are just looking for something to get offended about.
- fzeroracer 6y ago
  > Do you know why i ignored it? Like, when im with other adults, the tone is much harsher sometimes, especially when we are drunk. So you need to have the skin for that, which is generally a useful trait in life. So i assumed your argument featuring a fragile cis man was due to a lack of social experience. Generally speaking, 'having thick skin' doesn't give you carte blanche to be an asshole to someone else. If you're an asshole to a coworker and you tell them to get thicker skin, you're likely going to be fired at worst if not reprimanded. That has nothing to do with fragility, that has to do with people not wanting to associate with you. As an aside: Having 'thick skin' means effectively not standing up for yourself when someone's being a dick which is generally a not useful trait in life. There's a balancing act between being getting angry at the drop of a pin and letting someone abuse you. > Did i stereotype an entire group? I explicitly stated that i have problems with a specific behaviour from a part of a group, and explicitly told that parts of the group don't exhibit this behaviour. You ignored that. Yes you did. > I don't wish to work with self-identified transgender people due to this anymore. They take everything so personal even if its not about them. Is stereotyping. Replace 'transgender' with 'black' and you'd be racist instead of transphobic. > I said that i was leaving communities due to this behaviour. I'm the one leaving, not the transgender people. I'm, at most, ostracizing myself. Usually I find when people say this, they don't actually leave the community. They're usually chasing off other users, often causing other drama in their wake. > And then you come and go accuse me of arguing in bad faith. Seriously. You are just looking for something to get offended about. Because you are arguing in bad faith. The fact that you choose to think that I'm 'looking for something to get offended about' just further proves my point.
  - blueflow 6y ago
    > If you're an asshole to a coworker and you tell them to get thicker skin, you're likely going to be fired at worst if not reprimanded what? you are joking, right? This is not how stuff works here... You read that i always said 'self-identified' transgender, right? Because i know that the majority of transgender people aren't like that > Usually I find when people say this, they don't actually leave the community. They're usually chasing off other users, often causing other drama in their wake. I left without saying a word. Its not my style to announce myself when entering or leaving a community. Why do you assume such a thing about me? > The fact that you choose to think that I'm 'looking for something to get offended about' just further proves my point. I told you that because you started to make unfounded accusations towards me. Check the thread history, what did i accuse you of? Compare that to what you accused me. You are more emotionally charged than it is good for any discussion.
    - fzeroracer 6y ago
      > Stop taking sexual identity so seriously - its not central to anything. > You are just looking for something to get offended about. > You might come from a social environment where people are much more fragile than in my environment. It sounds like you might need to grow some thicker skin yourself. You started off by stereotyping, making a lot of assumptions and also accusing another user of being rude.

blueflow 6y ago

Do you know why i ignored it? Like, when im with other adults, the tone is much harsher sometimes, especially when we are drunk. So you need to have the skin for that, which is generally a useful trait in life. So i assumed your argument featuring a fragile cis man was due to a lack of social experience. Did i stereotype an entire group? I explicitly stated that i have problems with a specific behaviour from a part of a group, and explicitly told that parts of the group don't exhibit this behaviour. You ignored that. I said that i was leaving communities due to this behaviour. I'm the one leaving, not the transgender people. I'm, at most, ostracizing myself. And then you come and go accuse me of arguing in bad faith. Seriously. You are just looking for something to get offended about.

fzeroracer 6y ago
> Do you know why i ignored it? Like, when im with other adults, the tone is much harsher sometimes, especially when we are drunk. So you need to have the skin for that, which is generally a useful trait in life. So i assumed your argument featuring a fragile cis man was due to a lack of social experience. Generally speaking, 'having thick skin' doesn't give you carte blanche to be an asshole to someone else. If you're an asshole to a coworker and you tell them to get thicker skin, you're likely going to be fired at worst if not reprimanded. That has nothing to do with fragility, that has to do with people not wanting to associate with you. As an aside: Having 'thick skin' means effectively not standing up for yourself when someone's being a dick which is generally a not useful trait in life. There's a balancing act between being getting angry at the drop of a pin and letting someone abuse you. > Did i stereotype an entire group? I explicitly stated that i have problems with a specific behaviour from a part of a group, and explicitly told that parts of the group don't exhibit this behaviour. You ignored that. Yes you did. > I don't wish to work with self-identified transgender people due to this anymore. They take everything so personal even if its not about them. Is stereotyping. Replace 'transgender' with 'black' and you'd be racist instead of transphobic. > I said that i was leaving communities due to this behaviour. I'm the one leaving, not the transgender people. I'm, at most, ostracizing myself. Usually I find when people say this, they don't actually leave the community. They're usually chasing off other users, often causing other drama in their wake. > And then you come and go accuse me of arguing in bad faith. Seriously. You are just looking for something to get offended about. Because you are arguing in bad faith. The fact that you choose to think that I'm 'looking for something to get offended about' just further proves my point.
- blueflow 6y ago
  > If you're an asshole to a coworker and you tell them to get thicker skin, you're likely going to be fired at worst if not reprimanded what? you are joking, right? This is not how stuff works here... You read that i always said 'self-identified' transgender, right? Because i know that the majority of transgender people aren't like that > Usually I find when people say this, they don't actually leave the community. They're usually chasing off other users, often causing other drama in their wake. I left without saying a word. Its not my style to announce myself when entering or leaving a community. Why do you assume such a thing about me? > The fact that you choose to think that I'm 'looking for something to get offended about' just further proves my point. I told you that because you started to make unfounded accusations towards me. Check the thread history, what did i accuse you of? Compare that to what you accused me. You are more emotionally charged than it is good for any discussion.
  - fzeroracer 6y ago
    > Stop taking sexual identity so seriously - its not central to anything. > You are just looking for something to get offended about. > You might come from a social environment where people are much more fragile than in my environment. It sounds like you might need to grow some thicker skin yourself. You started off by stereotyping, making a lot of assumptions and also accusing another user of being rude.