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Trump admin to Facebook, Twitter: end calls to topple statues, do violent acts

7 points by aspenmayer 6y ago

aspenmayer 6y ago
This is new territory. This is actual censorship. Protests actions not otherwise illegal should be allowed on social media, in compliance with their TOS. This message from the administration is very close to a government official advocating for a third party to remove your free usage of a platform for allowed usage in ways the government may also disagree with. I expect the courts to frown on this for the same reasons that the courts decided against Trump banning people from his Twitter account which he uses for official government business. I leave you with a poem. The Cloths of Heaven Had I the heaven's embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half-light; I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. W. B. Yeats Original title was too long. It was: Trump administration tells Facebook, Twitter to take action against calls to topple statues, commit 'violent’ acts
- TheGrim-888 6y ago
  Trump threatens to use law enforcement to restore law and order in areas devastated by rioting, where there's literally political insurrection establishing an autonomous zone - Sites classify this as racist hate speech, it's censored, memory holed, and removed from the internet. Trump asks the same sites to stop promoting violence, rioting, and the destruction of the country - Classified as hate speech and censorship, and must be memory holed and removed. Quite the double standards. I can go on facebook, say all white people should die, all cops are evil, shoot the police, etc., and that's perfectly fine and removing it amounts to censorship. But heavens forbid Trump threatens to restore law and order, now THAT's crossing the line.
  - aspenmayer 6y ago
    I do tend to agree with your desire for law and order, but not at the cost of public safety. The police are arguably more of a threat to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness than protesters removing racist statues and protesting via nontraditional means.
oyra 6y ago
wrong call. the admin should start detaining and prosecuting those who participates in such criminal activity. take them as isil (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_cultural_heritage_by_ISIL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_cultural_herita...) and act accordingly.
mansion7 6y ago
'Violent' isn't in quotes in the article. Have seen many calls for criminality on social media, up to and including assassination and mass murder. One would think if Twitter et al were comfortable censoring people for spreading so-called 'misinformation', they'd have no problem also censoring posts which are clearly intended to invite violence and even civil war.
- aspenmayer 6y ago
  Quotes were present at the time of my post; I have updated title to reflect edit of original title.

7 points by aspenmayer 6y ago

This is new territory. This is actual censorship. Protests actions not otherwise illegal should be allowed on social media, in compliance with their TOS. This message from the administration is very close to a government official advocating for a third party to remove your free usage of a platform for allowed usage in ways the government may also disagree with. I expect the courts to frown on this for the same reasons that the courts decided against Trump banning people from his Twitter account which he uses for official government business. I leave you with a poem. The Cloths of Heaven Had I the heaven's embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half-light; I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. W. B. Yeats Original title was too long. It was: Trump administration tells Facebook, Twitter to take action against calls to topple statues, commit 'violent’ acts

TheGrim-888 6y ago
Trump threatens to use law enforcement to restore law and order in areas devastated by rioting, where there's literally political insurrection establishing an autonomous zone - Sites classify this as racist hate speech, it's censored, memory holed, and removed from the internet. Trump asks the same sites to stop promoting violence, rioting, and the destruction of the country - Classified as hate speech and censorship, and must be memory holed and removed. Quite the double standards. I can go on facebook, say all white people should die, all cops are evil, shoot the police, etc., and that's perfectly fine and removing it amounts to censorship. But heavens forbid Trump threatens to restore law and order, now THAT's crossing the line.
- aspenmayer 6y ago
  I do tend to agree with your desire for law and order, but not at the cost of public safety. The police are arguably more of a threat to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness than protesters removing racist statues and protesting via nontraditional means.

oyra 6y ago

wrong call. the admin should start detaining and prosecuting those who participates in such criminal activity. take them as isil (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_cultural_heritage_by_ISIL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_cultural_herita...) and act accordingly.

mansion7 6y ago

'Violent' isn't in quotes in the article. Have seen many calls for criminality on social media, up to and including assassination and mass murder. One would think if Twitter et al were comfortable censoring people for spreading so-called 'misinformation', they'd have no problem also censoring posts which are clearly intended to invite violence and even civil war.

aspenmayer 6y ago
Quotes were present at the time of my post; I have updated title to reflect edit of original title.