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i've said this everywhere... we all need to invest on wikipedia, to make it powerful, free and useful it may not work as intented, if you are doing university

i've said this everywhere... we all need to invest on wikipedia, to make it powerful, free and useful it may not work as intented, if you are doing university research but ... for general purpose we must have a general encyclopedia that actually works

kevin_thibedeau 6y ago
Not going to happen so long as self-appointed kings decide what gets to stay. Exhaustive list of Pokemon? Sure thing. "Non-notable" programming language? Not worthy.
- amatecha 6y ago
  Yep, I see so many pages get deleted due to "non-notability". Meanwhile you see exhaustive content about temporarily-popular subjects like a complete plot synopsis for an entire TV series, plus detailed information about every location ever described in that series. Like this comprehensive list of all the characters in the ReBoot series[0]. Hey, I liked the series at the time, but come on. I can't help but feel a bit frustrated when valuable information is deleted permanently, but content hundreds of times the size persists for super-obscure topics that a couple people feel passionate about enough to fight for and rally their fellow account-holders to vote for. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ReBoot_characters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ReBoot_characters
  - opo 6y ago
    There should be a flag indicating that content is considered 'Not Notable' by the admins so it is easy to ignore in searches if you so desire. The idea that content is actually being deleted because it isn't considered 'notable' by some person in 2020 is sad. Who knows what will be considered 'notable' in 2050?
- MultusSalus 6y ago
  Equally, everything on bulbapedia was within the scope of the project initially, so stats of Pokémon in each gen are now feeling excluded, just as programming languages are. This piece is pretty good on the topic: https://www.gwern.net/In-Defense-Of-Inclusionism https://www.gwern.net/In-Defense-Of-Inclusionism
frandroid 6y ago
Huh, Wikipedia is already free and useful? Anyway, Wikipedia raises TONS of money but it goes to staff of dubious purpose with regards to its goals.
- metrokoi 6y ago
  Same with most non-profits.

kevin_thibedeau 6y ago

Not going to happen so long as self-appointed kings decide what gets to stay. Exhaustive list of Pokemon? Sure thing. "Non-notable" programming language? Not worthy.

amatecha 6y ago
Yep, I see so many pages get deleted due to "non-notability". Meanwhile you see exhaustive content about temporarily-popular subjects like a complete plot synopsis for an entire TV series, plus detailed information about every location ever described in that series. Like this comprehensive list of all the characters in the ReBoot series[0]. Hey, I liked the series at the time, but come on. I can't help but feel a bit frustrated when valuable information is deleted permanently, but content hundreds of times the size persists for super-obscure topics that a couple people feel passionate about enough to fight for and rally their fellow account-holders to vote for. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ReBoot_characters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ReBoot_characters
- opo 6y ago
  There should be a flag indicating that content is considered 'Not Notable' by the admins so it is easy to ignore in searches if you so desire. The idea that content is actually being deleted because it isn't considered 'notable' by some person in 2020 is sad. Who knows what will be considered 'notable' in 2050?
MultusSalus 6y ago
Equally, everything on bulbapedia was within the scope of the project initially, so stats of Pokémon in each gen are now feeling excluded, just as programming languages are. This piece is pretty good on the topic: https://www.gwern.net/In-Defense-Of-Inclusionism https://www.gwern.net/In-Defense-Of-Inclusionism

frandroid 6y ago

Huh, Wikipedia is already free and useful? Anyway, Wikipedia raises TONS of money but it goes to staff of dubious purpose with regards to its goals.

metrokoi 6y ago
Same with most non-profits.