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I'm absolutely certain the only way we stop climate change is via innovation in the form of carbon capture technologies. There's no way humans are just gonna c

I'm absolutely certain the only way we stop climate change is via innovation in the form of carbon capture technologies. There's no way humans are just gonna cut back on eating meat, demand a removal of single-use plastics, crack down on resource-intensive industries (almond milk is INCREDIBLY inefficient and only getting more popular, for instance), and fight to pass laws which force companies to get cleaner (thus increasing the cost of those products). I've met a handful of people in my life who care enough to live a greener lifestyle beyond making one or two relatively convenient changes in their life, let alone overhaul their entire lifestyle. It's absolutely down to the wizards working on green tech to solve the issue.

seanwilson 6y ago
> There's no way humans are just gonna cut back on eating meat, You don't think taxing meat by its environmental cost will work? > crack down on resource-intensive industries (almond milk is INCREDIBLY inefficient and only getting more popular, for instance) Almond uses an order of magnitude less land, emissions and water than dairy so why not crack down on dairy if you feel this way? https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46654042 https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46654042 We already grow then feed soy to cows to get milk, why not just drink soy directly?
- rhino369 6y ago
  >You don't think taxing meat by its environmental cost will work? Economically, it would work. Politically? At least in the US, people would vote out any party that installed taxes that reduced meat consumption by an significant amount. We don't even have the political willpower to make energy slightly more expensive.
- kulahan 6y ago
  As the other user said, I don't believe we could get the political muster necessary to pass a law taxing meat heavily any time soon. Meat is popular! Nobody wants to give that up. Also, you're absolutely correct that dairy milk is less efficient by a long-shot, I was just pointing to it because I know a lot of people I personally know are moving to it and away from dairy as though it's a quality alternative. It's better, but still not great.
rakoo 6y ago
We have carbon capture technologies, it's trees. Any man-made technology will be worse: - It still needs energy to be built and to run, so it still (ultimately) depends on petrol to run. Petrol still emits CO2 and, more worryingly, conventional crude oil has peaked in 2008 and is in decline since then: https://damnthematrix.wordpress.com/2019/04/11/iea-2018-world-energy-outlook-peak-oil-is-here-oil-crunch-by-2023/ https://damnthematrix.wordpress.com/2019/04/11/iea-2018-worl... - At the scale we need to capture carbon, we start hitting other issues, namely the shortage of materials needed for building them Unfortunately those technologies won't "solve" the problem, merely move the goalposts
adrianN 6y ago
We already have all the technology we need. It's just very expensive to switch over to clean alternatives. Carbon capture won't change the economics of this.

seanwilson 6y ago

> There's no way humans are just gonna cut back on eating meat, You don't think taxing meat by its environmental cost will work? > crack down on resource-intensive industries (almond milk is INCREDIBLY inefficient and only getting more popular, for instance) Almond uses an order of magnitude less land, emissions and water than dairy so why not crack down on dairy if you feel this way? https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46654042 https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46654042 We already grow then feed soy to cows to get milk, why not just drink soy directly?

rhino369 6y ago
>You don't think taxing meat by its environmental cost will work? Economically, it would work. Politically? At least in the US, people would vote out any party that installed taxes that reduced meat consumption by an significant amount. We don't even have the political willpower to make energy slightly more expensive.
kulahan 6y ago
As the other user said, I don't believe we could get the political muster necessary to pass a law taxing meat heavily any time soon. Meat is popular! Nobody wants to give that up. Also, you're absolutely correct that dairy milk is less efficient by a long-shot, I was just pointing to it because I know a lot of people I personally know are moving to it and away from dairy as though it's a quality alternative. It's better, but still not great.

rakoo 6y ago

We have carbon capture technologies, it's trees. Any man-made technology will be worse: - It still needs energy to be built and to run, so it still (ultimately) depends on petrol to run. Petrol still emits CO2 and, more worryingly, conventional crude oil has peaked in 2008 and is in decline since then: https://damnthematrix.wordpress.com/2019/04/11/iea-2018-world-energy-outlook-peak-oil-is-here-oil-crunch-by-2023/ https://damnthematrix.wordpress.com/2019/04/11/iea-2018-worl... - At the scale we need to capture carbon, we start hitting other issues, namely the shortage of materials needed for building them Unfortunately those technologies won't "solve" the problem, merely move the goalposts

adrianN 6y ago

We already have all the technology we need. It's just very expensive to switch over to clean alternatives. Carbon capture won't change the economics of this.