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mc32 says>"This almost mirrors ok Cupid’s dataviz articles ... The data ... shows mostly males...mostly white." No. MobileWalla's statement in the article: "A

mc32 says>"This almost mirrors ok Cupid’s dataviz articles ... The data ... shows mostly males...mostly white." No. MobileWalla's statement in the article: "African American males made up the majority of protesters in the four observed cities vs. females,” Mobilewalla claimed. “Men vs. women in Atlanta (61% vs. 39%), in Los Angeles (65% vs. 35%), in Minneapolis (54% vs. 46%) and in New York (59% vs. 41%). "

mc32 6y ago
No, that’s a problem with their sentence construction. All it means is that among African American blacks, males were the majority. The key is: ""African American males made up the majority of protesters in the four observed cities vs. females,”" vs. females (when looking at male-female distribution in the African American pop of protesters, in those four cities the majority were men).
- pinfisher 6y ago
  "African American males made up the majority of protesters " This is very clear. No idea what you are talking about.
  - michaelmior 6y ago
    The full sentence you're quoting makes things a bit murkier to me: "African American males made up the majority of protesters in the four observed cities vs. females,"
    - vmh1928 6y ago
      possibly more clear to say something like: "for African American protesters the majority, xx%, were males." If that's what they're trying to say.
  - mc32 6y ago
    Then either their pie charts are wrong/mislabeled or their prose writing sucks. Compare the two.
  - marci 6y ago
    Ethnicity Distribution: A substantial majority of the protesters were white, in the cities where the data was gathered, with the highest percentage in Minneapolis (85%), followed by Los Angeles (78%), and Atlanta and New York (both at 76%). A total of 18% of the protesters were African American in Atlanta, 11% in Minneapolis, 13% in New York and 3% in Los Angeles. Those numbers remained steady during the nighttime hours. Hispanic and Asian American participation was less than 10% in all four cities. https://www.mobilewalla.com/about/press/new-report-reveals-demographics-of-protests https://www.mobilewalla.com/about/press/new-report-reveals-d...
    - giardini 6y ago
      Marc1 says>"Ethnicity Distribution: A substantial majority of the protesters were white, in the cities where the data was gathered, with the highest percentage in Minneapolis (85%), followed by Los Angeles (78%), and Atlanta and New York (both at 76%). A total of 18% of the protesters were African American in Atlanta, 11% in Minneapolis, 13% in New York and 3% in Los Angeles. Those numbers remained steady during the nighttime hours. Hispanic and Asian American participation was less than 10% in all four cities. https://www.mobilewalla.com/about/press/new-report-reveals-demographics-of-protests*" https://www.mobilewalla.com/about/press/new-report-reveals-d... Again, nothing you say here can be found at the URL you provided. In fact the words "male", "female" and even "%" do not exist at that URL.
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      - mc32 6y ago
        They moved/removed the doc. Here's the link of the cached copy [ https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pX1CstKh3ZMJ:https://www.mobilewalla.com/about/press/new-report-reveals-demographics-of-protests+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pX1Cst...] and text: >"Ethnicity Distribution: A substantial majority of the protesters were white, in the cities where the data was gathered, with the highest percentage in Minneapolis (85%), followed by Los Angeles (78%), and Atlanta and New York (both at 76%). A total of 18% of the protesters were African American in Atlanta, 11% in Minneapolis, 13% in New York and 3% in Los Angeles. Those numbers remained steady during the nighttime hours. Hispanic and Asian American participation was less than 10% in all four cities. Male vs. Female During the daytime hours, the majority of Black Lives Matter protesters were male in Atlanta (58%), Minneapolis (56%) and New York (62%). However, in Los Angeles, the greatest number of protesters during daytime were women. At nighttime, the percentage of male protesters increased in all four cities. African American Males vs. Females African American males made up the majority of protesters in the four observed cities vs. females. Men vs. women in Atlanta (61% vs. 39%), in Los Angeles (65% vs. 35%), in Minneapolis (54% vs. 46%) and in New York (59% vs. 41%). There was no statistical change for the nighttime hours. How Old Were the Protesters? The overall age of the protesters in all four cities skewed heavily in the 18-34 age ranging from 66% in New York and L.A., 67% in Minneapolis to 69% in Atlanta. Protesters in the 55+ age group ranked second ranging from 24% in New York, 23% in Atlanta and Minneapolis to 20% in Los Angeles."
  - sukilot 6y ago
    That's not how language works. You can't freely remove words from a sentence and assets that the meaning remains the same.
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marci 6y ago
The wording + the way the article is layed out may blur the information. I think the source is a little bit clearer. https://www.mobilewalla.com/about/press/new-report-reveals-demographics-of-protests https://www.mobilewalla.com/about/press/new-report-reveals-d...
- giardini 6y ago
  I call BS. The link you supply https://www.mobilewalla.com/about/press/new-report-reveals-demographics-of-protests https://www.mobilewalla.com/about/press/new-report-reveals-d... has no data and no clarification.
  - marci 6y ago
    I don't know what's up with their website. The link redirect to a page about covid-19 as of now (https://www.mobilewalla.com/blog/fighting-covid-19-with-location-data-ai https://www.mobilewalla.com/blog/fighting-covid-19-with-loca...)
    - giardini 6y ago
      marci says>* marci 10 minutes ago | parent | on: Mobilewalla used cellphone data to estimate the de... I don't know what's up with their website. The link redirect to a page about covid-19 as of now (https://www.mobilewalla.com/blog/fighting-covid-19-with-location-data-ai)*< https://www.mobilewalla.com/blog/fighting-covid-19-with-loca... Same: no data and no clarification at that URL.
      - mc32 6y ago
        Looks like the removed/moved the page; see: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pX1CstKh3ZMJ:https://www.mobilewalla.com/about/press/new-report-reveals-demographics-of-protests+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pX1Cst... Bing cache: https://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=https%3a%2f%2fwww.mobilewalla.com%2fabout%2fpress%2fnew-report-reveals-demographics-of-protests*%2522&d=1939409218178&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=v5WSHlM-fXCdhIMw79nDCVTVTogFkUx4 https://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=https%3a%2f%2fwww.mobilewa...

mc32 6y ago

No, that’s a problem with their sentence construction. All it means is that among African American blacks, males were the majority. The key is: ""African American males made up the majority of protesters in the four observed cities vs. females,”" vs. females (when looking at male-female distribution in the African American pop of protesters, in those four cities the majority were men).

pinfisher 6y ago
"African American males made up the majority of protesters " This is very clear. No idea what you are talking about.
- michaelmior 6y ago
  The full sentence you're quoting makes things a bit murkier to me: "African American males made up the majority of protesters in the four observed cities vs. females,"
  - vmh1928 6y ago
    possibly more clear to say something like: "for African American protesters the majority, xx%, were males." If that's what they're trying to say.
- mc32 6y ago
  Then either their pie charts are wrong/mislabeled or their prose writing sucks. Compare the two.
- marci 6y ago
  Ethnicity Distribution: A substantial majority of the protesters were white, in the cities where the data was gathered, with the highest percentage in Minneapolis (85%), followed by Los Angeles (78%), and Atlanta and New York (both at 76%). A total of 18% of the protesters were African American in Atlanta, 11% in Minneapolis, 13% in New York and 3% in Los Angeles. Those numbers remained steady during the nighttime hours. Hispanic and Asian American participation was less than 10% in all four cities. https://www.mobilewalla.com/about/press/new-report-reveals-demographics-of-protests https://www.mobilewalla.com/about/press/new-report-reveals-d...
  - giardini 6y ago
    Marc1 says>"Ethnicity Distribution: A substantial majority of the protesters were white, in the cities where the data was gathered, with the highest percentage in Minneapolis (85%), followed by Los Angeles (78%), and Atlanta and New York (both at 76%). A total of 18% of the protesters were African American in Atlanta, 11% in Minneapolis, 13% in New York and 3% in Los Angeles. Those numbers remained steady during the nighttime hours. Hispanic and Asian American participation was less than 10% in all four cities. https://www.mobilewalla.com/about/press/new-report-reveals-demographics-of-protests*" https://www.mobilewalla.com/about/press/new-report-reveals-d... Again, nothing you say here can be found at the URL you provided. In fact the words "male", "female" and even "%" do not exist at that URL.
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    - mc32 6y ago
      They moved/removed the doc. Here's the link of the cached copy [ https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pX1CstKh3ZMJ:https://www.mobilewalla.com/about/press/new-report-reveals-demographics-of-protests+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pX1Cst...] and text: >"Ethnicity Distribution: A substantial majority of the protesters were white, in the cities where the data was gathered, with the highest percentage in Minneapolis (85%), followed by Los Angeles (78%), and Atlanta and New York (both at 76%). A total of 18% of the protesters were African American in Atlanta, 11% in Minneapolis, 13% in New York and 3% in Los Angeles. Those numbers remained steady during the nighttime hours. Hispanic and Asian American participation was less than 10% in all four cities. Male vs. Female During the daytime hours, the majority of Black Lives Matter protesters were male in Atlanta (58%), Minneapolis (56%) and New York (62%). However, in Los Angeles, the greatest number of protesters during daytime were women. At nighttime, the percentage of male protesters increased in all four cities. African American Males vs. Females African American males made up the majority of protesters in the four observed cities vs. females. Men vs. women in Atlanta (61% vs. 39%), in Los Angeles (65% vs. 35%), in Minneapolis (54% vs. 46%) and in New York (59% vs. 41%). There was no statistical change for the nighttime hours. How Old Were the Protesters? The overall age of the protesters in all four cities skewed heavily in the 18-34 age ranging from 66% in New York and L.A., 67% in Minneapolis to 69% in Atlanta. Protesters in the 55+ age group ranked second ranging from 24% in New York, 23% in Atlanta and Minneapolis to 20% in Los Angeles."
- sukilot 6y ago
  That's not how language works. You can't freely remove words from a sentence and assets that the meaning remains the same.

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marci 6y ago

The wording + the way the article is layed out may blur the information. I think the source is a little bit clearer. https://www.mobilewalla.com/about/press/new-report-reveals-demographics-of-protests https://www.mobilewalla.com/about/press/new-report-reveals-d...

giardini 6y ago
I call BS. The link you supply https://www.mobilewalla.com/about/press/new-report-reveals-demographics-of-protests https://www.mobilewalla.com/about/press/new-report-reveals-d... has no data and no clarification.
- marci 6y ago
  I don't know what's up with their website. The link redirect to a page about covid-19 as of now (https://www.mobilewalla.com/blog/fighting-covid-19-with-location-data-ai https://www.mobilewalla.com/blog/fighting-covid-19-with-loca...)
  - giardini 6y ago
    marci says>* marci 10 minutes ago | parent | on: Mobilewalla used cellphone data to estimate the de... I don't know what's up with their website. The link redirect to a page about covid-19 as of now (https://www.mobilewalla.com/blog/fighting-covid-19-with-location-data-ai)*< https://www.mobilewalla.com/blog/fighting-covid-19-with-loca... Same: no data and no clarification at that URL.
    - mc32 6y ago
      Looks like the removed/moved the page; see: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pX1CstKh3ZMJ:https://www.mobilewalla.com/about/press/new-report-reveals-demographics-of-protests+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pX1Cst... Bing cache: https://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=https%3a%2f%2fwww.mobilewalla.com%2fabout%2fpress%2fnew-report-reveals-demographics-of-protests*%2522&d=1939409218178&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=v5WSHlM-fXCdhIMw79nDCVTVTogFkUx4 https://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=https%3a%2f%2fwww.mobilewa...