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The only political expression of hers I'm aware of is that she says she's a communist, and I don't think that will prevent her getting a statue.

entropyneur 6y ago
You are not fully informed about this matter then. She vocally supported persecution of Russia's only private science-funding organization. She also seems to be a stalinist, at least she posts Stalin quotes on SciHub's social media and went on record saying "there are multiple ways to see Stalin's persona".
- throwaway4666 6y ago
  You'd be surprised at how popular Stalin seems to be in Russia and Central Asia countries. Forgot the link but I read that 45% of Russians have a positive opinion of him. Yes he did all those atrocities but more importantly he brought national pride. After all, he did win WW2 and turned the country into a world superpower that rivaled with the US for decades. As time passes the memories of the atrocities fade and the national pride grows. Just like the French praise Napoleon who led hundreds of thousands of young men to their deaths in ruinous wars, the British praise Churchill who orchestrated a famine that killed millions of Bengali people, Americans praise the slave-owning founding fathers, etc.
  - ReticentVole 6y ago
    Mao Zedong, Genghis Khan, Attila the Hun, Mohammed, Nelson Mandela, all responsible for varying amounts of human death and suffering - yet revered or worshiped today.
    - john4532452 6y ago
      "Nelson Mandela" in the same line as "Genghis Khan". I am puzzled. That doesn't seem right. Citation Needed.
      - hirundo 6y ago
        Mandela's many years in prison were the result of his leadership of a "terrorist" organization that killed thousands, mostly fellow blacks, frequently in horrific ways. You're right that this was not on the scale of Genghis Khan's crimes. Yasser Arafat is a better comparison. https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/africa/item/17106-in-death-as-in-life-truth-about-mandela-overlooked https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/africa/item/17106-...
        john4532452 6y ago
        > killed thousands, mostly fellow blacks Freedom is not free, that's a given. Based on past experience in understanding other cultures as an outsider, i am pretty sure there is something else for disliking Mandela which can only be explained by a person from within who understands the different sections of the South Africa. Can someone shed light on this ? The above argument is very weak.
- john4532452 6y ago
  > private science-funding organization. I don't know why this should not be opposed, stalinist may be.
  - entropyneur 6y ago
    That's a peculiar worldview

entropyneur 6y ago

You are not fully informed about this matter then. She vocally supported persecution of Russia's only private science-funding organization. She also seems to be a stalinist, at least she posts Stalin quotes on SciHub's social media and went on record saying "there are multiple ways to see Stalin's persona".

throwaway4666 6y ago
You'd be surprised at how popular Stalin seems to be in Russia and Central Asia countries. Forgot the link but I read that 45% of Russians have a positive opinion of him. Yes he did all those atrocities but more importantly he brought national pride. After all, he did win WW2 and turned the country into a world superpower that rivaled with the US for decades. As time passes the memories of the atrocities fade and the national pride grows. Just like the French praise Napoleon who led hundreds of thousands of young men to their deaths in ruinous wars, the British praise Churchill who orchestrated a famine that killed millions of Bengali people, Americans praise the slave-owning founding fathers, etc.
- ReticentVole 6y ago
  Mao Zedong, Genghis Khan, Attila the Hun, Mohammed, Nelson Mandela, all responsible for varying amounts of human death and suffering - yet revered or worshiped today.
  - john4532452 6y ago
    "Nelson Mandela" in the same line as "Genghis Khan". I am puzzled. That doesn't seem right. Citation Needed.
    - hirundo 6y ago
      Mandela's many years in prison were the result of his leadership of a "terrorist" organization that killed thousands, mostly fellow blacks, frequently in horrific ways. You're right that this was not on the scale of Genghis Khan's crimes. Yasser Arafat is a better comparison. https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/africa/item/17106-in-death-as-in-life-truth-about-mandela-overlooked https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/africa/item/17106-...
      - john4532452 6y ago
        > killed thousands, mostly fellow blacks Freedom is not free, that's a given. Based on past experience in understanding other cultures as an outsider, i am pretty sure there is something else for disliking Mandela which can only be explained by a person from within who understands the different sections of the South Africa. Can someone shed light on this ? The above argument is very weak.
john4532452 6y ago
> private science-funding organization. I don't know why this should not be opposed, stalinist may be.
- entropyneur 6y ago
  That's a peculiar worldview