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There's no open source without copyright.

exprez135 6y ago
Maybe not in today's form, but a world without copyright would be a different world, perhaps one in which people would work for free software because it's what they believe in. It would represent a fundamental shift in how the public viewed knowledge, sharing, and openness.
praptak 6y ago
There is no licenses like GPLv3 without copyright. But many others would not be necessary, as everything would be essentially under a permissive license.
- eythian 6y ago
  This is true, however without copyright I think many other things would change making the GPL a lot less necessary. For example, no one could prevent you giving your friend a copy of a program, so the market would change a whole lot. Basically, the thing about BSD that GPL doesn't like is that BSD permits proprietary software being created. Without copyright, there isn't really proprietary software any more, and less of a reason to keep source secret. (Most of this thinking comes pre-web-applications, that does change the parameters a bit.)
  - praptak 6y ago
    Yes, that's why I mentioned GPL v3.
hobs 6y ago
Without the rich owning everything there'd be no need for robinhood either.
Marsymars 6y ago
Even if Windows weren't under copyright, I don't expect it would be practical to have an OS based off of random leaks of source code without any of the rest of MS's infrastructure.
teddyh 6y ago
There is no BLM without racists.
GoblinSlayer 6y ago
Free knowledge like mathematics existed before copyright and was free as in freedom.
- Veen 6y ago
  Yes, and mathematicians were supported financially by universities, by the patronage of the wealthy, or were independently wealthy. Wherever knowledge production and creative work occur, someone is paying for it.
  - GoblinSlayer 6y ago
    True, without wealth people would think about nothing but food.
MaxBarraclough 6y ago
That's clearly untrue. The ultra-permissive 'copycenter' licences used by projects like FreeBSD, are very similar to releasing into the public domain (i.e. waiving copyrights). There'd be no copyleft (GPL etc) without copyright, sure.

Maybe not in today's form, but a world without copyright would be a different world, perhaps one in which people would work for free software because it's what they believe in. It would represent a fundamental shift in how the public viewed knowledge, sharing, and openness.

praptak 6y ago

There is no licenses like GPLv3 without copyright. But many others would not be necessary, as everything would be essentially under a permissive license.

eythian 6y ago
This is true, however without copyright I think many other things would change making the GPL a lot less necessary. For example, no one could prevent you giving your friend a copy of a program, so the market would change a whole lot. Basically, the thing about BSD that GPL doesn't like is that BSD permits proprietary software being created. Without copyright, there isn't really proprietary software any more, and less of a reason to keep source secret. (Most of this thinking comes pre-web-applications, that does change the parameters a bit.)
- praptak 6y ago
  Yes, that's why I mentioned GPL v3.

hobs 6y ago

Without the rich owning everything there'd be no need for robinhood either.

Marsymars 6y ago

Even if Windows weren't under copyright, I don't expect it would be practical to have an OS based off of random leaks of source code without any of the rest of MS's infrastructure.

teddyh 6y ago

There is no BLM without racists.

GoblinSlayer 6y ago

Free knowledge like mathematics existed before copyright and was free as in freedom.

Veen 6y ago
Yes, and mathematicians were supported financially by universities, by the patronage of the wealthy, or were independently wealthy. Wherever knowledge production and creative work occur, someone is paying for it.
- GoblinSlayer 6y ago
  True, without wealth people would think about nothing but food.

MaxBarraclough 6y ago

That's clearly untrue. The ultra-permissive 'copycenter' licences used by projects like FreeBSD, are very similar to releasing into the public domain (i.e. waiving copyrights). There'd be no copyleft (GPL etc) without copyright, sure.