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> There is no social contract for concluding a series. I never said there is a social contract. I said that he is breaching the trust in readers. The trust th

> There is no social contract for concluding a series. I never said there is a social contract. I said that he is breaching the trust in readers. The trust that made him rich and famous in the first place. There is. People bought his first 5 books because he had promised he'd release the 6th and 7th book by 2019 and 2020. If they knew he'd never release them, they'd have not bought it. He is rich and famous because we readers bought his books way before he was famous. if millions wouldn't have bought his books, he'd not have been famous and you wouldn't come here to defend him. We readers, collectively are owed a book, not personally. And the main issue which you ignore is that he is writing prequels upon prequels. That is the main problem I have.

harperlee 6y ago
> If they knew he'd never release them, they'd have not bought it. Im sorry but that is ridiculous. People in general dont evaluate that when reading or recommending a book. When only 1 book was written, people read it, loved it and recommended it. As it was: 1 sole book. Not due to a plan to have 6 more books afterwards.
- thewhitetulip 6y ago
  Considering your other comments, I think that you don't know which book/author I am talking about. A song of Ice and Fire is not a single, individual novel. It is an epic saga which is broken across eight books. This is not like 'not a penny more, not a penny less' which was a standalone book by Jeffrey Archer or 11.22.63, another standalone book by Stephen King. I am not holding my breath out for 11.22.64 demanding that King write a sequel to it. No sir. Why everyone is holding their breath for GoT is that it is an unfinished book which was announced as a 8part series. > People in general dont evaluate that when reading or recommending a book. LOL go talk to GoT fans. We've been waiting 11yrs for a sequel which was promised 8+yrs ago. Ask them what I said. 'Would you have read GoT if you knew that GRRM would rather write a prequel than finish the current series.' I am pretty sure everyone will say NO.
  - harperlee 6y ago
    I know the books. I mentioned readers of the first book, not multi-year fans. Obviously those are already invested, you are biasing the sample. And you are changing the question.
    - thewhitetulip 6y ago
      > you are biasing the sample And you are changing the topic now that your point is demolished. Adios.
      - harperlee 6y ago
        What? You demolished what point? To this: > When only 1 book was written, people read it, loved it and recommended it. As it was: 1 sole book. You answered this: > 'Would you have read GoT if you knew that GRRM would rather write a prequel than finish the current series.' I am pretty sure everyone will say NO. Which doesn't make sense. When only the first book was written, people did not recommend the complete saga, and the value put on book #7 was close to 0. What they were recommending to colleagues, and reading by the thousands, was just the first book. If you reread what I said, I'm directly pointing to a counterexample to your reasoning that the saga is not interesting without book seven - because it was, back when it was 1 book, then when it was just 2, etc. Anyway, adiós!
    - thewhitetulip 6y ago
      >Which doesn't make sense. When only the first book was written, people did not recommend the complete saga, and the value put on book #7 was close to 0. What they were recommending to colleagues, and reading by the thousands, was just the first book. If you reread what I said, I'm directly pointing to a counterexample to your reasoning that the saga is not interesting without book seven - because it was, back when it was 1 book, then when it was just 2, etc. Give me a freaking break. I think you are taking the sample of 1 (you) and then making this argument. Every single person knew from the start that it is going to be a series. But if they knew that he'd not write any sequel for 11yrs but will keep on writing prequels for his HBO shows then nobody would have bothered to buy his book. And which idiot will read the first GoT book and will be satisfied. "WOW this is a great book and I don't care if the sequel is ever written". The value of the story is in ALL the eight books and not in any of the standalone books. Talking to you is a waste of time and I am not going to comment. But your logic was so atrocious that I had to reply. but not going to reply to you ever again. sayoonara.

harperlee 6y ago

> If they knew he'd never release them, they'd have not bought it. Im sorry but that is ridiculous. People in general dont evaluate that when reading or recommending a book. When only 1 book was written, people read it, loved it and recommended it. As it was: 1 sole book. Not due to a plan to have 6 more books afterwards.

thewhitetulip 6y ago
Considering your other comments, I think that you don't know which book/author I am talking about. A song of Ice and Fire is not a single, individual novel. It is an epic saga which is broken across eight books. This is not like 'not a penny more, not a penny less' which was a standalone book by Jeffrey Archer or 11.22.63, another standalone book by Stephen King. I am not holding my breath out for 11.22.64 demanding that King write a sequel to it. No sir. Why everyone is holding their breath for GoT is that it is an unfinished book which was announced as a 8part series. > People in general dont evaluate that when reading or recommending a book. LOL go talk to GoT fans. We've been waiting 11yrs for a sequel which was promised 8+yrs ago. Ask them what I said. 'Would you have read GoT if you knew that GRRM would rather write a prequel than finish the current series.' I am pretty sure everyone will say NO.
- harperlee 6y ago
  I know the books. I mentioned readers of the first book, not multi-year fans. Obviously those are already invested, you are biasing the sample. And you are changing the question.
  - thewhitetulip 6y ago
    > you are biasing the sample And you are changing the topic now that your point is demolished. Adios.
    - harperlee 6y ago
      What? You demolished what point? To this: > When only 1 book was written, people read it, loved it and recommended it. As it was: 1 sole book. You answered this: > 'Would you have read GoT if you knew that GRRM would rather write a prequel than finish the current series.' I am pretty sure everyone will say NO. Which doesn't make sense. When only the first book was written, people did not recommend the complete saga, and the value put on book #7 was close to 0. What they were recommending to colleagues, and reading by the thousands, was just the first book. If you reread what I said, I'm directly pointing to a counterexample to your reasoning that the saga is not interesting without book seven - because it was, back when it was 1 book, then when it was just 2, etc. Anyway, adiós!
  - thewhitetulip 6y ago
    >Which doesn't make sense. When only the first book was written, people did not recommend the complete saga, and the value put on book #7 was close to 0. What they were recommending to colleagues, and reading by the thousands, was just the first book. If you reread what I said, I'm directly pointing to a counterexample to your reasoning that the saga is not interesting without book seven - because it was, back when it was 1 book, then when it was just 2, etc. Give me a freaking break. I think you are taking the sample of 1 (you) and then making this argument. Every single person knew from the start that it is going to be a series. But if they knew that he'd not write any sequel for 11yrs but will keep on writing prequels for his HBO shows then nobody would have bothered to buy his book. And which idiot will read the first GoT book and will be satisfied. "WOW this is a great book and I don't care if the sequel is ever written". The value of the story is in ALL the eight books and not in any of the standalone books. Talking to you is a waste of time and I am not going to comment. But your logic was so atrocious that I had to reply. but not going to reply to you ever again. sayoonara.