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Thank you for the clarification. Now I remember reading something about an "antifa" flag, that seemed unconclusive... please, remember I'm a foreigner so my jud

by narag 6y ago

Thank you for the clarification. Now I remember reading something about an "antifa" flag, that seemed unconclusive... please, remember I'm a foreigner so my judgement may lack some insights you have. Actually all this seems absurd. Trump is a politician, actually a public officer, so censoring his speech is a alien concept to me. In my country certain politicians IMHO deserve jail for the outrageous nonsense they say everyday, promoting hate and justifying violence. But nobody ask newspapers or tv to stop giving them interviews or air time. In a sense Facebook or Twitter are a kind of media, so even if the messages are disgusting, they're still relevant and the public should see them... and act accordingly when the time to vote comes. It's other politicians who should criticize that speech and put a moderate counterpoint against it. Acting against the messenger seems misguided. Am I missing something?

edoceo 6y ago
You stated "all this seems absurd". An accurate description of American politics. I don't think you're missing anything.
joshribakoff 6y ago
He’s posting factual inaccuracies about mail in ballots. Twitter appended the fact check information, so people could pursue their right to vote. Facebook did nothing This isn’t due to one single event, it’s a pattern.
DenisM 6y ago
> Am I missing something? Yes - it's the election year. Trump is an alien element to the American establishment (republican and democrat alike), they put tons of work into preventing his election, even more work to obstruct his presidency, and now pulled out all the stops to derail his re-election.
AgentME 6y ago
>Now I remember reading something about an "antifa" flag, that seemed unconclusive... You're probably thinking of this case recently where Trump ran ads on Facebook which called out antifa and used the same symbol for them that the Nazis used for leftist political prisoners sent to concentration camps. The ads even had other Nazi dogwhistles included too. Facebook took down those ads. https://www.motherjones.com/2020-elections/2020/06/trump-upside-down-triangle-antifa/ https://www.motherjones.com/2020-elections/2020/06/trump-ups... I find it outright amazing how much charity people around HN are still extending Trump.
- narag 6y ago
  I have no sympathy for the man and, trust me, I'm not playing dumb. I'm genuinely unable to see the logic in all this. In a majority system you win by seducing the centrist vote. Why would anybody think it's a good idea to be associated with nazis? Or for that matter, dissolving the police, so his adversaries are trying to outdo him with similar egregious proposals. What does Biden say about the lootings and the defunding? I can understand that extremist groups somehow justify the violence, but not a presidential candidate or his party. Verizon seems to be a phone company or gigantic ISP. Why does that kind of company takes sides in this fight? What I find funniest is that over here even media in the opposite end of political spectrum complain when the government leaves them out of election adds.

by narag 6y ago

edoceo 6y ago

You stated "all this seems absurd". An accurate description of American politics. I don't think you're missing anything.

joshribakoff 6y ago

He’s posting factual inaccuracies about mail in ballots. Twitter appended the fact check information, so people could pursue their right to vote. Facebook did nothing This isn’t due to one single event, it’s a pattern.

DenisM 6y ago

> Am I missing something? Yes - it's the election year. Trump is an alien element to the American establishment (republican and democrat alike), they put tons of work into preventing his election, even more work to obstruct his presidency, and now pulled out all the stops to derail his re-election.

AgentME 6y ago

>Now I remember reading something about an "antifa" flag, that seemed unconclusive... You're probably thinking of this case recently where Trump ran ads on Facebook which called out antifa and used the same symbol for them that the Nazis used for leftist political prisoners sent to concentration camps. The ads even had other Nazi dogwhistles included too. Facebook took down those ads. https://www.motherjones.com/2020-elections/2020/06/trump-upside-down-triangle-antifa/ https://www.motherjones.com/2020-elections/2020/06/trump-ups... I find it outright amazing how much charity people around HN are still extending Trump.

narag 6y ago
I have no sympathy for the man and, trust me, I'm not playing dumb. I'm genuinely unable to see the logic in all this. In a majority system you win by seducing the centrist vote. Why would anybody think it's a good idea to be associated with nazis? Or for that matter, dissolving the police, so his adversaries are trying to outdo him with similar egregious proposals. What does Biden say about the lootings and the defunding? I can understand that extremist groups somehow justify the violence, but not a presidential candidate or his party. Verizon seems to be a phone company or gigantic ISP. Why does that kind of company takes sides in this fight? What I find funniest is that over here even media in the opposite end of political spectrum complain when the government leaves them out of election adds.