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Downvotes are a valuable signal. Adding that kind of friction means most people won't bother. Maybe it could work if there were pre-determined answers one coul

Downvotes are a valuable signal. Adding that kind of friction means most people won't bother. Maybe it could work if there were pre-determined answers one could select (so it's faster) but I don't see how the simple UI could display that. Food for thought: should upvotes require a reason too?

j45 6y ago
Food for the food for thought: Is more learnt from disagreeing, or agreeing? I don't think people mind being wrong. Or maybe people like pointing out others are wrong more than sticking around for the conversation. We do know the quality and diversity of opinion and conversation doesn't suffer from upvoting, but it can be suppressd by downvoting. If downvoting had a requirement of a one sentence input, that was maybe anonymized or made only visible to the OP... maybe there's something there. How many downvotes wouldn't happen if it wasn't quite bad enough to articulate into one sentence?
- wolco 6y ago
  The quality can be affected by poor upvoting. I've seen too many examples where the first comment is incorrect technically. Adding a reason wouldn't help.
  - j45 6y ago
    Maybe providing a reason over a certain number of upvotes might be a good idea.
- pabs3 6y ago
  > Is more learnt from disagreeing, or agreeing? Your comment reminded me of Polis: https://pol.is/ https://pol.is/ https://github.com/pol-is/ https://github.com/pol-is/ Taiwan use it for their multi-stakeholder decision making to find points of agreement. Their application of it to the Uber vs Taxis situation was quite interesting. https://debconf18.debconf.org/talks/135-q-a-session-with-minister-tang/ https://debconf18.debconf.org/talks/135-q-a-session-with-min... https://blog.pol.is/pol-is-in-taiwan-da7570d372b5 https://blog.pol.is/pol-is-in-taiwan-da7570d372b5 https://blog.pol.is/uber-responds-to-vtaiwans-coherent-blended-volition-3e9b75102b9b https://blog.pol.is/uber-responds-to-vtaiwans-coherent-blend...
Gibbon1 6y ago
Yeah downvotes would be a great signal if they were public and you could block those guys.

j45 6y ago

Food for the food for thought: Is more learnt from disagreeing, or agreeing? I don't think people mind being wrong. Or maybe people like pointing out others are wrong more than sticking around for the conversation. We do know the quality and diversity of opinion and conversation doesn't suffer from upvoting, but it can be suppressd by downvoting. If downvoting had a requirement of a one sentence input, that was maybe anonymized or made only visible to the OP... maybe there's something there. How many downvotes wouldn't happen if it wasn't quite bad enough to articulate into one sentence?

wolco 6y ago
The quality can be affected by poor upvoting. I've seen too many examples where the first comment is incorrect technically. Adding a reason wouldn't help.
- j45 6y ago
  Maybe providing a reason over a certain number of upvotes might be a good idea.
pabs3 6y ago
> Is more learnt from disagreeing, or agreeing? Your comment reminded me of Polis: https://pol.is/ https://pol.is/ https://github.com/pol-is/ https://github.com/pol-is/ Taiwan use it for their multi-stakeholder decision making to find points of agreement. Their application of it to the Uber vs Taxis situation was quite interesting. https://debconf18.debconf.org/talks/135-q-a-session-with-minister-tang/ https://debconf18.debconf.org/talks/135-q-a-session-with-min... https://blog.pol.is/pol-is-in-taiwan-da7570d372b5 https://blog.pol.is/pol-is-in-taiwan-da7570d372b5 https://blog.pol.is/uber-responds-to-vtaiwans-coherent-blended-volition-3e9b75102b9b https://blog.pol.is/uber-responds-to-vtaiwans-coherent-blend...

Gibbon1 6y ago

Yeah downvotes would be a great signal if they were public and you could block those guys.