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> I searched "sketch" the other day and it took me to "sketchers.com" I got curious and tried the same, with the same results. And I have never before bought s

> I searched "sketch" the other day and it took me to "sketchers.com" I got curious and tried the same, with the same results. And I have never before bought shoes online, ever. But it's even worse than you said: the website is actually "skechers.com", with no t. So, when you type "sketch", Safari is guessing that you're misspelling the name of a shoe retailer.

saagarjha 6y ago
Ha, I didn't even notice that! Yeah, it's gotten really aggressive about thinking it knows better than you…
chadlavi 6y ago
I'm a bit confused... I just typed "sketch" in Safari on my phone. The first suggested result was indeed skechers.com. But then I hit enter (so the total keystrokes were "s k e t c h return") and it did a search in my default search engine for "sketch". Which is what I expected. so what am I doing that you're not?
- elliekelly 6y ago
  Are you using private browsing? Safari also did a search in my default search engine for me (but sketch.com was the top result on DDG). But when I turn off private browsing and type sketch it immediately sends me to skechers.com despite the fact that I wouldn’t be caught dead in a pair of their shoes and my purchase/browsing history reflects that. Odd that private browsing would impact the autocomplete behavior in that way...
  - chadlavi 6y ago
    No
- yial 6y ago
  iPhone 10 on 13.5.1... I opened a new tab, typed in “sketch” saw Skechers.com below it, but just hit enter on the keyboard... went to Skechers.com. I’ve never purchased shoes from Skechers.com and have only bought shoes online once before. (A pair of Tevas from amazon in 2019).
- xsmasher 6y ago
  I can confirm the "s k e t c h return" -> skechers behavior. "s k e t c h SPACE return" got me the google search results.
  - rubyfan 6y ago
    doesn’t do it for me. one difference is my default search engine is duck duck go.
    - chadlavi 6y ago
      Aha! Same here, it looks like maybe DDG vs Google is the real difference here?
      - evolve2k 6y ago
        So the hypotheses is, it’s doing a web search and google is doing an auto “I’m feeling lucky” redirect.
        saagarjha 6y ago
        I use DuckDuckGo ;)
        noodlesUK 6y ago
        I use ddg and I can confirm the sketch<enter> -> Skechers.com
      - codetrotter 6y ago
        iPhone X here, running iOS 13.5.1. I have Google set as my search engine in Safari. When I type sketch and press return I am taken to the Google Search results. Notably, however, I have “Search Engine Suggestions” turned off in my Safari settings, and I also have “Safari Suggestions” turned off in my Safari settings. I’ve turned them off a while back because they were more of a nuisance than a help. Maybe you and others turned those things off at some point too?
- ivalm 6y ago
  On iPhone 11 Pro and updated Safari typing “sketch” and pressing “go” leads to sketchers website. Have to click on “google searches” to get other results.
  - hazz99 6y ago
    Interesting! I have a very new iPhone 11 and it takes me straight to the google results. I wonder if the behaviour depends on your locale?
    - codetrotter 6y ago
      iPhone X here, running iOS 13.5.1. I have Google set as my search engine in Safari. When I type sketch and press return I am taken to the Google Search results. Notably, however, I have “Search Engine Suggestions” turned off in my Safari settings, and I also have “Safari Suggestions” turned off in my Safari settings. I’ve turned them off a while back because they were more of a nuisance than a help. Maybe you and others turned those things off at some point too?
      - wruza 6y ago
        I have both turned on, but cannot reproduce on ios 13. Must be 14 new shiny thing, glad I skipped the update. The amount of things that Apple improved over last 7 years is incredible, I think it’s time for them to move on.
  - ViViDboarder 6y ago
    iPhone 8 it leads me to DDG search results.
- ObsoleteNerd 6y ago
  iPhone 11 Pro here, everything up to date, and I get the same as you. Type in "sketch" and press GO and I get the DDG results for the term "sketch". I also tried the example in the OP link and typed "realty.com" and it went to realty.com as expected. Funnily enough though, as proof that Safari suggestions are still broken despite the above examples working for me... if I now type in "sketch" again, it suggests "realty.com" as the top result. Wtf.
- mjcohen 6y ago
  When I keyed "sketch" into Brave on a mac, the first entry was momentarily "Sketch — The digital design toolkit". Then that was preceded by "SKECHERS® Official Site - Shoes, Boots & Clothing".
- chadlavi 6y ago
  And here's a video: https://share.icloud.com/photos/0xTe8fTeUgpQX6ymGcR8zputg https://share.icloud.com/photos/0xTe8fTeUgpQX6ymGcR8zputg Note this is on the iOS 14 beta
- cuddlybacon 6y ago
  s k e t c h takes me to a DuckDuckGo search. I’ve always been frustrated with Chrome where it always tries to force the longest URL in my history that matches the current entry.
- egwor 6y ago
  I wonder if this is somehow region specific. In the UK, this goes to Sketch London (a place for food)
- csunbird 6y ago
  I tried the behavior on both my work and personal macbook pros with safari. Work laptop does not suggest anything and searches sketch but my personal one suggests sketchtoy.com for sketch and sketch.com as a second result. Its clearly Siri hijacking the ENTER button. Edit: Just to mention, I use Firefox as my daily browser in both, so my safari does not have any history on both computers.
rezonant 6y ago
One thing that doesn't seem to be discussed a lot in this thread is that the keystrokes alone don't tell you what Safari will do. The second and third cases of the original video show Safari adding extra characters (the second and third phone added "m" as in "realty.com[m]", and in my testing, "sketch" added "rs" as in "sketch[rs]". When I tried (iPad Safari) "realty.com", the "Top Hit" was "realty.com" and it did not autofill anything, and I got to realty.com (no problem there). However, The first phone in the video did not show any extra characters. Is Safari considering it a "search autocompletion" but not showing any extra characters, perhaps because they are suppressed? Also, many commentors here report this not happening for them, but they do not specify the state of Search Engine Suggestions and Safari Suggestions options on their devices. My testing was done with all the default options (which is both Search Engine and Safari Suggestions are turned on) EDIT: Could it be that the Suggestions system is taking the autocomplete candidate ("sketchrs" and "realty.comm") as its input (instead of what the user actually typed)? That would explain what I've read here except for the very first iPhone in the video...
pletnes 6y ago
Maybe this is the final push to eliminate brands that are misspelled normal words?

saagarjha 6y ago

Ha, I didn't even notice that! Yeah, it's gotten really aggressive about thinking it knows better than you…

chadlavi 6y ago

I'm a bit confused... I just typed "sketch" in Safari on my phone. The first suggested result was indeed skechers.com. But then I hit enter (so the total keystrokes were "s k e t c h return") and it did a search in my default search engine for "sketch". Which is what I expected. so what am I doing that you're not?

elliekelly 6y ago
Are you using private browsing? Safari also did a search in my default search engine for me (but sketch.com was the top result on DDG). But when I turn off private browsing and type sketch it immediately sends me to skechers.com despite the fact that I wouldn’t be caught dead in a pair of their shoes and my purchase/browsing history reflects that. Odd that private browsing would impact the autocomplete behavior in that way...
- chadlavi 6y ago
  No
yial 6y ago
iPhone 10 on 13.5.1... I opened a new tab, typed in “sketch” saw Skechers.com below it, but just hit enter on the keyboard... went to Skechers.com. I’ve never purchased shoes from Skechers.com and have only bought shoes online once before. (A pair of Tevas from amazon in 2019).
xsmasher 6y ago
I can confirm the "s k e t c h return" -> skechers behavior. "s k e t c h SPACE return" got me the google search results.
- rubyfan 6y ago
  doesn’t do it for me. one difference is my default search engine is duck duck go.
  - chadlavi 6y ago
    Aha! Same here, it looks like maybe DDG vs Google is the real difference here?
    - evolve2k 6y ago
      So the hypotheses is, it’s doing a web search and google is doing an auto “I’m feeling lucky” redirect.
      - saagarjha 6y ago
        I use DuckDuckGo ;)
      - noodlesUK 6y ago
        I use ddg and I can confirm the sketch<enter> -> Skechers.com
    - codetrotter 6y ago
      iPhone X here, running iOS 13.5.1. I have Google set as my search engine in Safari. When I type sketch and press return I am taken to the Google Search results. Notably, however, I have “Search Engine Suggestions” turned off in my Safari settings, and I also have “Safari Suggestions” turned off in my Safari settings. I’ve turned them off a while back because they were more of a nuisance than a help. Maybe you and others turned those things off at some point too?
ivalm 6y ago
On iPhone 11 Pro and updated Safari typing “sketch” and pressing “go” leads to sketchers website. Have to click on “google searches” to get other results.
- hazz99 6y ago
  Interesting! I have a very new iPhone 11 and it takes me straight to the google results. I wonder if the behaviour depends on your locale?
  - codetrotter 6y ago
    iPhone X here, running iOS 13.5.1. I have Google set as my search engine in Safari. When I type sketch and press return I am taken to the Google Search results. Notably, however, I have “Search Engine Suggestions” turned off in my Safari settings, and I also have “Safari Suggestions” turned off in my Safari settings. I’ve turned them off a while back because they were more of a nuisance than a help. Maybe you and others turned those things off at some point too?
    - wruza 6y ago
      I have both turned on, but cannot reproduce on ios 13. Must be 14 new shiny thing, glad I skipped the update. The amount of things that Apple improved over last 7 years is incredible, I think it’s time for them to move on.
- ViViDboarder 6y ago
  iPhone 8 it leads me to DDG search results.
ObsoleteNerd 6y ago
iPhone 11 Pro here, everything up to date, and I get the same as you. Type in "sketch" and press GO and I get the DDG results for the term "sketch". I also tried the example in the OP link and typed "realty.com" and it went to realty.com as expected. Funnily enough though, as proof that Safari suggestions are still broken despite the above examples working for me... if I now type in "sketch" again, it suggests "realty.com" as the top result. Wtf.
mjcohen 6y ago
When I keyed "sketch" into Brave on a mac, the first entry was momentarily "Sketch — The digital design toolkit". Then that was preceded by "SKECHERS® Official Site - Shoes, Boots & Clothing".
chadlavi 6y ago
And here's a video: https://share.icloud.com/photos/0xTe8fTeUgpQX6ymGcR8zputg https://share.icloud.com/photos/0xTe8fTeUgpQX6ymGcR8zputg Note this is on the iOS 14 beta
cuddlybacon 6y ago
s k e t c h takes me to a DuckDuckGo search. I’ve always been frustrated with Chrome where it always tries to force the longest URL in my history that matches the current entry.
egwor 6y ago
I wonder if this is somehow region specific. In the UK, this goes to Sketch London (a place for food)
csunbird 6y ago
I tried the behavior on both my work and personal macbook pros with safari. Work laptop does not suggest anything and searches sketch but my personal one suggests sketchtoy.com for sketch and sketch.com as a second result. Its clearly Siri hijacking the ENTER button. Edit: Just to mention, I use Firefox as my daily browser in both, so my safari does not have any history on both computers.

rezonant 6y ago

One thing that doesn't seem to be discussed a lot in this thread is that the keystrokes alone don't tell you what Safari will do. The second and third cases of the original video show Safari adding extra characters (the second and third phone added "m" as in "realty.com[m]", and in my testing, "sketch" added "rs" as in "sketch[rs]". When I tried (iPad Safari) "realty.com", the "Top Hit" was "realty.com" and it did not autofill anything, and I got to realty.com (no problem there). However, The first phone in the video did not show any extra characters. Is Safari considering it a "search autocompletion" but not showing any extra characters, perhaps because they are suppressed? Also, many commentors here report this not happening for them, but they do not specify the state of Search Engine Suggestions and Safari Suggestions options on their devices. My testing was done with all the default options (which is both Search Engine and Safari Suggestions are turned on) EDIT: Could it be that the Suggestions system is taking the autocomplete candidate ("sketchrs" and "realty.comm") as its input (instead of what the user actually typed)? That would explain what I've read here except for the very first iPhone in the video...

pletnes 6y ago

Maybe this is the final push to eliminate brands that are misspelled normal words?