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The author wrote the book, you bought it and read it, and hopefully enjoyed it. They don't owe you another book. Who taught you that you were entitled to more?

The author wrote the book, you bought it and read it, and hopefully enjoyed it. They don't owe you another book. Who taught you that you were entitled to more? Are you a patron, supporting his way of living, the way things were once upon a time? You would be entitled to the work, in that case. But things don't work that way now. Neil was right.

thewhitetulip 6y ago
> Who taught you that you were entitled to more? First of all, please watch your tone and words. You do not feed me, neither do you give me pocket money. I won't tolerate this holier-than-thou attitude from anyone apart from those who directly pay me money for survival or feed me. > Are you a patron Yes, I (along with millions) bought his books before it was turned into a series, thus making him famous. He'd have been yet another failed author if we hadn't bought his books before he was famous. > supporting his way of living Yeah, millions of people like me bought his book when he wasn't famous, that's the reason he got famous. So we are supporting his way of living. He'd have been yet another failed author if we hadn't bought his books before he was famous. If we hadn't bought his books, he wouldn't have become famous. His books would have flopped and he wouldn't have gotten the HBO contract. Do you see the irony of your message? I am not 'entitled' to his work. I don't abuse him online. Neither do I send him hate mail saying 'GIVE ME THE BOOK'. But I am disappointed that he is not following the unwritten contract of not starting work on a new work without finishing the promised work. You are being quite rude just like Neil. You think that an author can announced 2 books are pending and not work on it for 11yrs and readers should just suck it. This isn't a one off book like what Archer/Deaver writes. IN that case, I would not expect them to write another book. But this was said to be an epic fantasy with 10 books. Of course readers will expect. But the issue isn't that he is writing slow. As a writer, I more than understand that. The issue is, he is writing prequels upon prequels while it seems as if he has abandoned the original books. he is on record saying 'just like LoTR was not JRRM's main work. GoT isn't mine' If he had said so 11yrs ago, I wouldn't have wasted money buying all his books. as would a million others. then he wouldn't have become famous and we wouldn't be having this conversation in the first place. That being said, I do not like the online hate against him for not finishing the book. I am just privately sad that he is not following his unwritten contract. Of course he doesn't owe anything to me personally. But he does owe to the readers who made him famous.
alanfranz 6y ago
> They don't owe you another book. It's not "another book". GoT is structured as a single, very large novel, divided in volumes, just like LOTR. There's no real ending to volumes, and somebody starting from the 5th book would understand little to nothing about the story. I wouldn't require Frank Herbert to write the next Dune novel - most of them are quite self contained. The same would be true for most novels from Rowling so far; even though there's a "larger story" behind, books are self-contained (with the exception of the 6th HP book). If she quits writing Cormoran Strike novels, I wouldn't think she had breached my trust. I bought (and spent time!) 5/7 of a novel (GoT) with the clear expectation that it would, someday, finish. And this expectation seems still to exist - the author never declared he's dropped the saga. It sometimes happens that a series gets interrupted because of low sales or other problems with the author (I can remember some comics - e.g. the Nana manga), but the GoT affair seems deliberate. Would you keep reading (and buying) books if you knew you couldn't finish them? Would you play (and buy) videogames that you couldn't finish? There's a kind of "trust system" that makes me buy unfinished things. If a large series, especially an extra-successful one, where money is not the problem, doesn't finish, there's a breach of trust. Everything IMHO. And I'd never send any kind of threat to GRRM. But I won't buy anything else from him, or at least anything unfinished.
- thewhitetulip 6y ago
  > there's a breach of trust. Exactly. And I am in the same boat as you. I don't send him hate email or death threats, but I ain't going to buy another book of his or watch another TV show until he finishes writing this series.

thewhitetulip 6y ago

> Who taught you that you were entitled to more? First of all, please watch your tone and words. You do not feed me, neither do you give me pocket money. I won't tolerate this holier-than-thou attitude from anyone apart from those who directly pay me money for survival or feed me. > Are you a patron Yes, I (along with millions) bought his books before it was turned into a series, thus making him famous. He'd have been yet another failed author if we hadn't bought his books before he was famous. > supporting his way of living Yeah, millions of people like me bought his book when he wasn't famous, that's the reason he got famous. So we are supporting his way of living. He'd have been yet another failed author if we hadn't bought his books before he was famous. If we hadn't bought his books, he wouldn't have become famous. His books would have flopped and he wouldn't have gotten the HBO contract. Do you see the irony of your message? I am not 'entitled' to his work. I don't abuse him online. Neither do I send him hate mail saying 'GIVE ME THE BOOK'. But I am disappointed that he is not following the unwritten contract of not starting work on a new work without finishing the promised work. You are being quite rude just like Neil. You think that an author can announced 2 books are pending and not work on it for 11yrs and readers should just suck it. This isn't a one off book like what Archer/Deaver writes. IN that case, I would not expect them to write another book. But this was said to be an epic fantasy with 10 books. Of course readers will expect. But the issue isn't that he is writing slow. As a writer, I more than understand that. The issue is, he is writing prequels upon prequels while it seems as if he has abandoned the original books. he is on record saying 'just like LoTR was not JRRM's main work. GoT isn't mine' If he had said so 11yrs ago, I wouldn't have wasted money buying all his books. as would a million others. then he wouldn't have become famous and we wouldn't be having this conversation in the first place. That being said, I do not like the online hate against him for not finishing the book. I am just privately sad that he is not following his unwritten contract. Of course he doesn't owe anything to me personally. But he does owe to the readers who made him famous.

alanfranz 6y ago

> They don't owe you another book. It's not "another book". GoT is structured as a single, very large novel, divided in volumes, just like LOTR. There's no real ending to volumes, and somebody starting from the 5th book would understand little to nothing about the story. I wouldn't require Frank Herbert to write the next Dune novel - most of them are quite self contained. The same would be true for most novels from Rowling so far; even though there's a "larger story" behind, books are self-contained (with the exception of the 6th HP book). If she quits writing Cormoran Strike novels, I wouldn't think she had breached my trust. I bought (and spent time!) 5/7 of a novel (GoT) with the clear expectation that it would, someday, finish. And this expectation seems still to exist - the author never declared he's dropped the saga. It sometimes happens that a series gets interrupted because of low sales or other problems with the author (I can remember some comics - e.g. the Nana manga), but the GoT affair seems deliberate. Would you keep reading (and buying) books if you knew you couldn't finish them? Would you play (and buy) videogames that you couldn't finish? There's a kind of "trust system" that makes me buy unfinished things. If a large series, especially an extra-successful one, where money is not the problem, doesn't finish, there's a breach of trust. Everything IMHO. And I'd never send any kind of threat to GRRM. But I won't buy anything else from him, or at least anything unfinished.

thewhitetulip 6y ago
> there's a breach of trust. Exactly. And I am in the same boat as you. I don't send him hate email or death threats, but I ain't going to buy another book of his or watch another TV show until he finishes writing this series.