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I love that this is a professional laptop that comes with a 144hz screen. But 1080p? Not even 1920x1200? Boo.. I want to replace my aging MacBook Pro and move

I love that this is a professional laptop that comes with a 144hz screen. But 1080p? Not even 1920x1200? Boo.. I want to replace my aging MacBook Pro and move to Linux, but finding a non-gaming laptop with a good screen seems to be an impossibility. Edit - To the people recommending laptops in this thread: Thanks for the suggestions, but none of them so far have had a 144hz screen. It's very hard to go back to 60hz after using a higher refresh rate monitor, even for simple things like literally moving a mouse around the screen and looking at the cursor. The only 144hz laptops I've found are 1080p, and that extra 120px of vertical room is a luxury I'm not yet willing to part with.

pedrocr 6y ago
Get an X1 Carbon with a 4K screen perhaps.
- pinewurst 6y ago
  The X1 Carbon (and the XPS 13) use the less powerful U processors.
- Descensus 6y ago
  Maybe? Any (recent, 8th gen and up) 's' model Thinkpad would be fine, especially with a WQHD screen. 4K would bludgeon their battery.
- headcanon 6y ago
  Agreed. Not a powerhouse (get the X1 extreme if you need discrete graphics), but its an excellent product nonetheless.
charliea0 6y ago
Does the developer edition XPS work? https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/overview/cp/linuxsystems https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/overview/cp/linuxsystem...
- rietta 6y ago
  I've been very pleased with my 2018 model of the XPS 13 Developer edition. Highly recommend.
- SweetestRug 6y ago
  I have the 2019 XPS 13 with the hidpi screen. It runs Linux beautifully. I used to run Ubuntu 18.04 and now run Manjaro. Both work without a hitch. I use GNOME, so the hidpi performance is really great. I strongly recommend the XPS 13 line.
- jvanderbot 6y ago
  Does the graphics system hold up? I wasn't able to find anything with reasonable CUDA cores (I do parallel algorithm development). Anyone have experience with Precision mobile workstations? Still seem quite slim form factor.
bxparks 6y ago
How about the Dell Precision 5550 or 5570? https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-Precision-5550-5750-First-no-bezel-17-inch-workstation-from-Dell.464212.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-Precision-5550-5750-First... * 1920x1200 or 3840x2400 * 64MB RAM, ECC w/ Xeon CPU
yingw787 6y ago
I actually wanted a 1080p screen, because resolution scaling support on Linux may not be all that great. At least it broke somewhat on a 4k laptop I used. I like the freedom of Linux, but I find the best support to be for the least common denominator of feature sets.
davrosthedalek 6y ago
I second that. Why is it so hard to have something similar to a mac pro? My wish list: Good screen, around 15", 4k or at least more than 1080p, non-glare or glare-reduced, good, large touchpad, not too thick or heavy, usb-c charging, webcam.
ardy42 6y ago
> I love that this is a professional laptop that comes with a 144hz screen. But 1080p? Not even 1920x1200? Boo.. Yeah. 16:9 screens are frankly unprofessional. They're for gaming and movies, not work. Give us a 16:10 (like Apple and a handful of other vendors still use).
- benologist 6y ago
  Give us an LG Gram 17 with a little more oomph and better speakers. The 17" 2560x1600 screen seems like it would be perfect for development - same resolution as the 13" MBP but a little more space to spread it out. https://www.lg.com/us/laptops/lg-17Z990-RAAS8U1-ultra-slim-laptop https://www.lg.com/us/laptops/lg-17Z990-RAAS8U1-ultra-slim-l...
  - zepearl 6y ago
    Agree, but as well a big "normal" keyboard (incl. a keypad). Basically like a lenovo p70/1/2/... but thin (and without discrete GPU nor superfast CPU). I just want a big screen & keyboard :(
- yellowapple 6y ago
  Or 3:2. I got a Pixelbook on a whim a couple years back and the 3:2 display is one of many things I absolutely love about the hardware. If only I could do something about the software...
  - craftkiller 6y ago
    You can. Buy or solder a SuzyQable[1] to unlock the firmware, flash MrChromebox's coreboot build[2], and install linux on it. I'm typing this message right now on my pixelbook running Arch Linux. So far the only problems I have with it is the audio does not work and I can't change screen brightness. The screen brightness is because linux refuses to use DPCD when the PWM line is connected. On the pixelbook the PWM line is connected but doesn't do anything. There are kernel patches you can apply to force DPCD but personally I'm just hoping someone eventually commits a fix upstream to let us toggle it. [1] https://www.sparkfun.com/products/14746 https://www.sparkfun.com/products/14746 [2] https://mrchromebox.tech/ https://mrchromebox.tech/

pedrocr 6y ago

Get an X1 Carbon with a 4K screen perhaps.

pinewurst 6y ago
The X1 Carbon (and the XPS 13) use the less powerful U processors.
Descensus 6y ago
Maybe? Any (recent, 8th gen and up) 's' model Thinkpad would be fine, especially with a WQHD screen. 4K would bludgeon their battery.
headcanon 6y ago
Agreed. Not a powerhouse (get the X1 extreme if you need discrete graphics), but its an excellent product nonetheless.

charliea0 6y ago

Does the developer edition XPS work? https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/overview/cp/linuxsystems https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/overview/cp/linuxsystem...

rietta 6y ago
I've been very pleased with my 2018 model of the XPS 13 Developer edition. Highly recommend.
SweetestRug 6y ago
I have the 2019 XPS 13 with the hidpi screen. It runs Linux beautifully. I used to run Ubuntu 18.04 and now run Manjaro. Both work without a hitch. I use GNOME, so the hidpi performance is really great. I strongly recommend the XPS 13 line.
jvanderbot 6y ago
Does the graphics system hold up? I wasn't able to find anything with reasonable CUDA cores (I do parallel algorithm development). Anyone have experience with Precision mobile workstations? Still seem quite slim form factor.

bxparks 6y ago

How about the Dell Precision 5550 or 5570? https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-Precision-5550-5750-First-no-bezel-17-inch-workstation-from-Dell.464212.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-Precision-5550-5750-First... * 1920x1200 or 3840x2400 * 64MB RAM, ECC w/ Xeon CPU

yingw787 6y ago

I actually wanted a 1080p screen, because resolution scaling support on Linux may not be all that great. At least it broke somewhat on a 4k laptop I used. I like the freedom of Linux, but I find the best support to be for the least common denominator of feature sets.

davrosthedalek 6y ago

I second that. Why is it so hard to have something similar to a mac pro? My wish list: Good screen, around 15", 4k or at least more than 1080p, non-glare or glare-reduced, good, large touchpad, not too thick or heavy, usb-c charging, webcam.

ardy42 6y ago

> I love that this is a professional laptop that comes with a 144hz screen. But 1080p? Not even 1920x1200? Boo.. Yeah. 16:9 screens are frankly unprofessional. They're for gaming and movies, not work. Give us a 16:10 (like Apple and a handful of other vendors still use).

benologist 6y ago
Give us an LG Gram 17 with a little more oomph and better speakers. The 17" 2560x1600 screen seems like it would be perfect for development - same resolution as the 13" MBP but a little more space to spread it out. https://www.lg.com/us/laptops/lg-17Z990-RAAS8U1-ultra-slim-laptop https://www.lg.com/us/laptops/lg-17Z990-RAAS8U1-ultra-slim-l...
- zepearl 6y ago
  Agree, but as well a big "normal" keyboard (incl. a keypad). Basically like a lenovo p70/1/2/... but thin (and without discrete GPU nor superfast CPU). I just want a big screen & keyboard :(
yellowapple 6y ago
Or 3:2. I got a Pixelbook on a whim a couple years back and the 3:2 display is one of many things I absolutely love about the hardware. If only I could do something about the software...
- craftkiller 6y ago
  You can. Buy or solder a SuzyQable[1] to unlock the firmware, flash MrChromebox's coreboot build[2], and install linux on it. I'm typing this message right now on my pixelbook running Arch Linux. So far the only problems I have with it is the audio does not work and I can't change screen brightness. The screen brightness is because linux refuses to use DPCD when the PWM line is connected. On the pixelbook the PWM line is connected but doesn't do anything. There are kernel patches you can apply to force DPCD but personally I'm just hoping someone eventually commits a fix upstream to let us toggle it. [1] https://www.sparkfun.com/products/14746 https://www.sparkfun.com/products/14746 [2] https://mrchromebox.tech/ https://mrchromebox.tech/