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Was AWS unavoidable?

by deltron3030 6y ago

nscalf 6y ago
Maybe it was just preferred? Why is AWS something to be avoided?
- deltron3030 6y ago
  Well, he lashes out against FAANG quite often.
  - cookiecaper 6y ago
    Elsewhere in the thread it says they have a goal to be free from "Big Tech" within 5 years, but that there are no reliable non-Big-Tech cloud platforms at the moment. Apparently "cloud" was a mandatory part of the platform. ️
    - deltron3030 6y ago
      My guess was Azure, because of the Github link to Ruby. But it's possible that AWS has some email functionality they need.
      - mr_ndrsn 6y ago
        No AWS lock in for any email features. It’s Just Postfix.
  - jonny_eh 6y ago
    He lashes out anyone that deserves it, I don't think that means he'd never order a package on Amazon or watch a movie on Netflix.
    - rthomas6 6y ago
      Why doesn't Amazon deserve it?
trcollinson 6y ago
I think DHH is just pointing out what "HEY" runs on (https://hey.com/ https://hey.com/) But AWS is really pleasant to use in most cases. Especially for anything more than a trivial application.
- deltron3030 6y ago
  It seems like they provide the most bang for the buck.
  - JamesSwift 6y ago
    Ehh, I'd say they are the worst in that category. They _do_ provide the most robust / expansive holistic platform though. So in terms of offerings-per-buck they are in the lead.
bryanlarsen 6y ago
They're using Kubernetes. I assume one of the reasons for that choice is to make themselves at least somewhat cloud agnostic.
julianeon 6y ago
The bigger question, for me, was: Why not use GCP instead of AWS, if you're running Kubernetes, a Google project that GCP is especially friendly towards?
- t3rabytes 6y ago
  We did! HEY actually started out on GKE.
  - julianeon 6y ago
    Interesting! I would've thought Kubernetes on GKE would be the one offering Google's platform totally dominated - even if you have a lot of your other infrastructure on AWS. I'm just getting started w Kubernetes and had seen some comments that I should be using GKE - so this was counterintuitive to me. I guess that once you get set up and running, AWS's offering is comparably good.

Was AWS unavoidable?

nscalf 6y ago

Maybe it was just preferred? Why is AWS something to be avoided?

deltron3030 6y ago
Well, he lashes out against FAANG quite often.
- cookiecaper 6y ago
  Elsewhere in the thread it says they have a goal to be free from "Big Tech" within 5 years, but that there are no reliable non-Big-Tech cloud platforms at the moment. Apparently "cloud" was a mandatory part of the platform. ️
  - deltron3030 6y ago
    My guess was Azure, because of the Github link to Ruby. But it's possible that AWS has some email functionality they need.
    - mr_ndrsn 6y ago
      No AWS lock in for any email features. It’s Just Postfix.
- jonny_eh 6y ago
  He lashes out anyone that deserves it, I don't think that means he'd never order a package on Amazon or watch a movie on Netflix.
  - rthomas6 6y ago
    Why doesn't Amazon deserve it?

trcollinson 6y ago

I think DHH is just pointing out what "HEY" runs on (https://hey.com/ https://hey.com/) But AWS is really pleasant to use in most cases. Especially for anything more than a trivial application.

deltron3030 6y ago
It seems like they provide the most bang for the buck.
- JamesSwift 6y ago
  Ehh, I'd say they are the worst in that category. They _do_ provide the most robust / expansive holistic platform though. So in terms of offerings-per-buck they are in the lead.

bryanlarsen 6y ago

They're using Kubernetes. I assume one of the reasons for that choice is to make themselves at least somewhat cloud agnostic.

julianeon 6y ago

The bigger question, for me, was: Why not use GCP instead of AWS, if you're running Kubernetes, a Google project that GCP is especially friendly towards?

t3rabytes 6y ago
We did! HEY actually started out on GKE.
- julianeon 6y ago
  Interesting! I would've thought Kubernetes on GKE would be the one offering Google's platform totally dominated - even if you have a lot of your other infrastructure on AWS. I'm just getting started w Kubernetes and had seen some comments that I should be using GKE - so this was counterintuitive to me. I guess that once you get set up and running, AWS's offering is comparably good.