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The comments here are weird and conspiratorial. "the results immediately suspect." "makes me question just how influential this survey is" "one "survey"....

The comments here are weird and conspiratorial. "the results immediately suspect." "makes me question just how influential this survey is" "one "survey".... what happened to integrity?" "Dodge looks like they paid a lot of money" The JD Power methodology is right there to read. If you're going to accuse them of corruption, maybe a bit of evidence? Or maybe, just maybe, Tesla has reliability issues. Many people outside the tech circles have known about this for a long time. They are being sued for paint issues. Panel alignment is terrible. I've seen videos of people going through the car wash and water leaking through the headliner. Do you really think that stuff happens with Dodges and Kias?

akmarinov 6y ago
Surprised as well, Teslas are known for their quality issues and huge waiting times for parts. There are videos on the Tesla subreddit on checklists to go through to make sure you get a decent car with few issues and dozens of horror stories on people that didn’t go through those. And I’m saying that as someone who wants one.
- dhagz 6y ago
  I'm just hoping other companies can offer something coming close to competing with Tesla in the next five years (my timeline for getting a new car). I'm already leery of Tesla's autopilot being more camera-based.
  - xedeon 6y ago
    That might be quite a while. People have been waiting since the original Model S came out in 2012.
    - new_realist 6y ago
      The reason is that other manufacturers make money.
  - bdcravens 6y ago
    Full self-driving is an optional feature; autopilot can be disabled (most features are by default). most new cars (including my cheap little 2018 Toyota) rely on cameras for things like auto-braking and adaptive cruise control.
xedeon 6y ago
>Do you really think that stuff happens with Dodges and Kias? Yes, ofcourse. Why wouldn't it? No such thing as a perfect production line. It's bound to happen. A 2 min cursory search already yielded these results for Dodge & Kia: "UPDATE: 2019 Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack 1320 Paint Issue!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwczheXKGWg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwczheXKGWg "WARNING 2019 HELLCAT CHALLENGER REDEYE WIDEBODY SRT / PAINT CHIPPING ISSUES / WIDEBODY BLUES" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg9IVj1S6bY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg9IVj1S6bY "Uneven roof panel gaps" https://www.ramforumz.com/threads/uneven-roof-panel-gaps.239041/ https://www.ramforumz.com/threads/uneven-roof-panel-gaps.239... "Common Problems, Issues and Complaints with the Genesis G70 (Paint issues and excessive panel gaps)" https://www.genesisg70forum.com/threads/common-problems-issues-and-complaints-with-the-genesis-g70.1802/ https://www.genesisg70forum.com/threads/common-problems-issu...

akmarinov 6y ago

Surprised as well, Teslas are known for their quality issues and huge waiting times for parts. There are videos on the Tesla subreddit on checklists to go through to make sure you get a decent car with few issues and dozens of horror stories on people that didn’t go through those. And I’m saying that as someone who wants one.

dhagz 6y ago
I'm just hoping other companies can offer something coming close to competing with Tesla in the next five years (my timeline for getting a new car). I'm already leery of Tesla's autopilot being more camera-based.
- xedeon 6y ago
  That might be quite a while. People have been waiting since the original Model S came out in 2012.
  - new_realist 6y ago
    The reason is that other manufacturers make money.
- bdcravens 6y ago
  Full self-driving is an optional feature; autopilot can be disabled (most features are by default). most new cars (including my cheap little 2018 Toyota) rely on cameras for things like auto-braking and adaptive cruise control.

xedeon 6y ago

>Do you really think that stuff happens with Dodges and Kias? Yes, ofcourse. Why wouldn't it? No such thing as a perfect production line. It's bound to happen. A 2 min cursory search already yielded these results for Dodge & Kia: "UPDATE: 2019 Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack 1320 Paint Issue!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwczheXKGWg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwczheXKGWg "WARNING 2019 HELLCAT CHALLENGER REDEYE WIDEBODY SRT / PAINT CHIPPING ISSUES / WIDEBODY BLUES" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg9IVj1S6bY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg9IVj1S6bY "Uneven roof panel gaps" https://www.ramforumz.com/threads/uneven-roof-panel-gaps.239041/ https://www.ramforumz.com/threads/uneven-roof-panel-gaps.239... "Common Problems, Issues and Complaints with the Genesis G70 (Paint issues and excessive panel gaps)" https://www.genesisg70forum.com/threads/common-problems-issues-and-complaints-with-the-genesis-g70.1802/ https://www.genesisg70forum.com/threads/common-problems-issu...