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Dodge is on top instead of Toyota or Honda? This makes the results immediately suspect.

by jdhn 6y ago

bdcravens 6y ago
It's in the first 90 days. Perhaps Toyota or Honda put additional features in their car that require some tweaking? When I bought a new 2018 Accord, the fancy display immediately had issues from day 1 and needed replacing. After that, no issues.
- slantaclaus 6y ago
  Usage of the word “Quality” rather than “Initial quality” in the article headline makes it all look like some kind of lame hatchet job
  - bdcravens 6y ago
    Yeah, the submitted article's title doesn't tell the entire story. That's why it's always important to comment on the article, not the headline.
    - slantaclaus 6y ago
      I disagree. Deception isn't cool and its worth calling it out when it happens.
itsoktocry 6y ago
>Dodge is on top instead of Toyota or Honda? This makes the results immediately suspect. If you have evidence to the contrary, can you provide the forum with links?
- lenwood 6y ago
  According to JD Power [1], Lexus is the most dependable 2019 brand. Dodge is the most improved, but its still lower in the list. And according to Consumer Reports study on 2020 models [2] Lexus is the most reliable brand but Dodge is in the top 10. The CR results are behind a paywall so here's a USA Today article covering the study [3]. [1]: https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2019-us-vehicle-dependability-study-vds https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2019-us-vehi... [2]: https://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/to-get-the-most-reliable-new-car-it-pays-to-wait/ https://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability-owner-satisf... [3]: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2019/11/14/consumer-reports-auto-reliability-study-2020-vehicles/2578463001/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2019/11/14/consume... Edit: Toyota does appear higher than Dodge in both studies.
  - bdcravens 6y ago
    You're literally talking about a different measure. This article is about initial issues (first 90 days of ownership); dependability refers to long-term ownership "overall dependability for three-year-old vehicles"
    - lenwood 6y ago
      Fair point. This does illustrate why someone might find it surprising that Dodge is outranking Toyota in a measure of quality though.

Dodge is on top instead of Toyota or Honda? This makes the results immediately suspect.

by jdhn 6y ago

Dodge is on top instead of Toyota or Honda? This makes the results immediately suspect.

It's in the first 90 days. Perhaps Toyota or Honda put additional features in their car that require some tweaking? When I bought a new 2018 Accord, the fancy display immediately had issues from day 1 and needed replacing. After that, no issues.

slantaclaus 6y ago
Usage of the word “Quality” rather than “Initial quality” in the article headline makes it all look like some kind of lame hatchet job
- bdcravens 6y ago
  Yeah, the submitted article's title doesn't tell the entire story. That's why it's always important to comment on the article, not the headline.
  - slantaclaus 6y ago
    I disagree. Deception isn't cool and its worth calling it out when it happens.

itsoktocry 6y ago

>Dodge is on top instead of Toyota or Honda? This makes the results immediately suspect. If you have evidence to the contrary, can you provide the forum with links?

lenwood 6y ago
According to JD Power [1], Lexus is the most dependable 2019 brand. Dodge is the most improved, but its still lower in the list. And according to Consumer Reports study on 2020 models [2] Lexus is the most reliable brand but Dodge is in the top 10. The CR results are behind a paywall so here's a USA Today article covering the study [3]. [1]: https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2019-us-vehicle-dependability-study-vds https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2019-us-vehi... [2]: https://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/to-get-the-most-reliable-new-car-it-pays-to-wait/ https://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability-owner-satisf... [3]: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2019/11/14/consumer-reports-auto-reliability-study-2020-vehicles/2578463001/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2019/11/14/consume... Edit: Toyota does appear higher than Dodge in both studies.
- bdcravens 6y ago
  You're literally talking about a different measure. This article is about initial issues (first 90 days of ownership); dependability refers to long-term ownership "overall dependability for three-year-old vehicles"
  - lenwood 6y ago
    Fair point. This does illustrate why someone might find it surprising that Dodge is outranking Toyota in a measure of quality though.