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HIV wasn't around in the 1970s (in Western countries at least) and also Jobs wasn't in the more at-risk demographics for the disease.

0x8BADF00D 6y ago
Right, but my point is that those who grew up in that era did not adopt condom use until much later. Old Steve was known to get around a lot.
caymanjim 6y ago
It very much was around in the 1970s, and you have no idea what his sex life was. But none of this is any of our business.
- stormdennis 6y ago
  Given that the first recognised death from AIDS was in the 80s, I'd dispute your saying that it was very much around in the 70s. I don't know what his sex life was like but as far as we know he wasn't a prostitute, a I.V. drug user or gay, so yeah he wasn't in any of the demographics hardest hit.
  - tssva 6y ago
    The AIDS might have been identified by the CDC in 1981 but testing of remains shows that the virus was in the US and killing people well before then.
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83uy2982983r80 6y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_early_HIV/AIDS_cases#Virus_origins https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_early_HIV/AIDS_cas... "(...) These specimens are significant not only because they are the oldest specimens of the virus known to cause AIDS, but because they show that the virus already had an extensive amount of genetic diversity in 1960.[10] This suggests the virus had either undergone recombination or been circulating for years or perhaps decades in the Kinshasa population. (...)" Additionally, Richard Edwin Graves Jr., a 28-year-old World War II veteran who had been stationed in the Solomon Islands, died on 26 July 1952 in Memphis, Tennessee with pneumocystis pneumonia, CMV and what some authors suggest are a sufficient number of opportunistic infections for a clinical course suggestive of an AIDS diagnosis.[8][9] Sadayo Fujisawa, a sixty-year-old Japanese-Canadian woman, died in Montreal on 28 June 1945 of pneumocystis pneumonia with Human cytomegalovirus (CMV), diarrhea, and wasting, a group of symptoms which some authors conclude would have led to an automatic diagnosis of AIDS in the early 1980s.[6][7] The virus was already circulating globally in the early 1900s.
- koheripbal 6y ago
  This evidence is not very compelling. The genetic diversity might be indicative of widerspread infection in sub-saharan Africa, and then two immuno-comprimised cases, are not specifically indicative of HIV. ...and then this statement has absolutely no basis in evidence: "The virus was already circulating globally in the early 1900s."

0x8BADF00D 6y ago

Right, but my point is that those who grew up in that era did not adopt condom use until much later. Old Steve was known to get around a lot.

caymanjim 6y ago

It very much was around in the 1970s, and you have no idea what his sex life was. But none of this is any of our business.

stormdennis 6y ago
Given that the first recognised death from AIDS was in the 80s, I'd dispute your saying that it was very much around in the 70s. I don't know what his sex life was like but as far as we know he wasn't a prostitute, a I.V. drug user or gay, so yeah he wasn't in any of the demographics hardest hit.
- tssva 6y ago
  The AIDS might have been identified by the CDC in 1981 but testing of remains shows that the virus was in the US and killing people well before then.
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83uy2982983r80 6y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_early_HIV/AIDS_cases#Virus_origins https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_early_HIV/AIDS_cas... "(...) These specimens are significant not only because they are the oldest specimens of the virus known to cause AIDS, but because they show that the virus already had an extensive amount of genetic diversity in 1960.[10] This suggests the virus had either undergone recombination or been circulating for years or perhaps decades in the Kinshasa population. (...)" Additionally, Richard Edwin Graves Jr., a 28-year-old World War II veteran who had been stationed in the Solomon Islands, died on 26 July 1952 in Memphis, Tennessee with pneumocystis pneumonia, CMV and what some authors suggest are a sufficient number of opportunistic infections for a clinical course suggestive of an AIDS diagnosis.[8][9] Sadayo Fujisawa, a sixty-year-old Japanese-Canadian woman, died in Montreal on 28 June 1945 of pneumocystis pneumonia with Human cytomegalovirus (CMV), diarrhea, and wasting, a group of symptoms which some authors conclude would have led to an automatic diagnosis of AIDS in the early 1980s.[6][7] The virus was already circulating globally in the early 1900s.

koheripbal 6y ago
This evidence is not very compelling. The genetic diversity might be indicative of widerspread infection in sub-saharan Africa, and then two immuno-comprimised cases, are not specifically indicative of HIV. ...and then this statement has absolutely no basis in evidence: "The virus was already circulating globally in the early 1900s."