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I mean ... the US has not even got hands on him yet. He hasn't been in US custody for a second. There is absolutely no case. Yet. If you want to feel contempt

I mean ... the US has not even got hands on him yet. He hasn't been in US custody for a second. There is absolutely no case. Yet. If you want to feel contempt strongly towards someone - the UK, Ecuador and Sweden governments are the ones to blame so far.

henearkr 6y ago
Yes, you're right. But the pressure to do so comes from the US all the same... You're right that what's happening in UK with Assange is very disturbing... I followed Craig Murray's blog posts.
- hardlianotion 6y ago
  Assange is in prison in the UK because he skipped bail.
  - henearkr 6y ago
    That's not what I am upset about. First of all, why had he to skip this bail at all. All of his suspicions about the first sex offense case being a pretense to extradite him were confirmed. And then, the way he is treated in the UK tribunal, like a slaughterer scum of the worst kind, denied all dignity, is revolting. If you had not seen the Craig Murray reports, I would warmly advise you to give them a look, they are rich in details.
- ReptileMan 6y ago
  Well you have to be special kind of reckless to be in US friendly jurisdictions when pissing off the State Department ... Assange wanted to play with the big boys. He got his wish granted.
  - henearkr 6y ago
    If I understand well, you are essentially saying "well done". Let us agree to disagree.
    - ReptileMan 6y ago
      No. I mean if you spill Uncle Sam secrets and make a high ranking politician lose face - make sure you are in a country where USA cannot reach you.
      - henearkr 6y ago
        UK was supposed to be such a place. At least UK's law was telling that. Also, smearing shit on the face of prime ministers, presidents, all the highest ranking politicians you can imagine, is just the game of free press in a democracy. You are free to chose your government only because you are free to know what they did wrong (or right). The fact to retaliate violently against that is totally contrary to the fair game supposed by the establishment of democracy, and also it does not restore the lost face of the politician. You are saying that was predictable. If you could do so, great, your guess was better than most people. Assange himself is quite paranoid yet he could not predict this trap.
ClumsyPilot 6y ago
There is a United Nations report detailing how Assange is being politically prosecuted. This is no longer merely an opinion of his sympathysers.
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- ReptileMan 6y ago
  He is not politically prosecuted, he is politically persecuted by prosecution that is pulled out of someone's ass. But once again - he hasn't been touched by US so far. There are numerous governments that could have given him asylum, and the EU court of human rights is suspiciously silent.
raverbashing 6y ago
To be fair the Equador government helped him a great deal but apparently even them got tired of it. I think they did what they could given the circumstances.
- frabbit 6y ago
  It's a different government now. The previous leftist one was doing inconvenient things so the USA had to get rid of it. The current one is doing what it is told though, so everything is fine: https://thegrayzone.com/2019/12/12/latin-america-neoliberalism-ecuador-assange-guillaume-long/ https://thegrayzone.com/2019/12/12/latin-america-neoliberali...
Tepix 6y ago
So you are saying charging a journalist with these things is OK?
- ReptileMan 6y ago
  Well ... a prosecutor can charge anyone with anything. Winning a case is a whole different matter. Not a first amendment scholar but Assange is probably pretty safe on disseminating the information. But they claim he committed felonies obtaining it.

henearkr 6y ago

Yes, you're right. But the pressure to do so comes from the US all the same... You're right that what's happening in UK with Assange is very disturbing... I followed Craig Murray's blog posts.

hardlianotion 6y ago
Assange is in prison in the UK because he skipped bail.
- henearkr 6y ago
  That's not what I am upset about. First of all, why had he to skip this bail at all. All of his suspicions about the first sex offense case being a pretense to extradite him were confirmed. And then, the way he is treated in the UK tribunal, like a slaughterer scum of the worst kind, denied all dignity, is revolting. If you had not seen the Craig Murray reports, I would warmly advise you to give them a look, they are rich in details.
ReptileMan 6y ago
Well you have to be special kind of reckless to be in US friendly jurisdictions when pissing off the State Department ... Assange wanted to play with the big boys. He got his wish granted.
- henearkr 6y ago
  If I understand well, you are essentially saying "well done". Let us agree to disagree.
  - ReptileMan 6y ago
    No. I mean if you spill Uncle Sam secrets and make a high ranking politician lose face - make sure you are in a country where USA cannot reach you.
    - henearkr 6y ago
      UK was supposed to be such a place. At least UK's law was telling that. Also, smearing shit on the face of prime ministers, presidents, all the highest ranking politicians you can imagine, is just the game of free press in a democracy. You are free to chose your government only because you are free to know what they did wrong (or right). The fact to retaliate violently against that is totally contrary to the fair game supposed by the establishment of democracy, and also it does not restore the lost face of the politician. You are saying that was predictable. If you could do so, great, your guess was better than most people. Assange himself is quite paranoid yet he could not predict this trap.

ClumsyPilot 6y ago

There is a United Nations report detailing how Assange is being politically prosecuted. This is no longer merely an opinion of his sympathysers.

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ReptileMan 6y ago
He is not politically prosecuted, he is politically persecuted by prosecution that is pulled out of someone's ass. But once again - he hasn't been touched by US so far. There are numerous governments that could have given him asylum, and the EU court of human rights is suspiciously silent.

raverbashing 6y ago

To be fair the Equador government helped him a great deal but apparently even them got tired of it. I think they did what they could given the circumstances.

frabbit 6y ago
It's a different government now. The previous leftist one was doing inconvenient things so the USA had to get rid of it. The current one is doing what it is told though, so everything is fine: https://thegrayzone.com/2019/12/12/latin-america-neoliberalism-ecuador-assange-guillaume-long/ https://thegrayzone.com/2019/12/12/latin-america-neoliberali...

Tepix 6y ago

So you are saying charging a journalist with these things is OK?

ReptileMan 6y ago
Well ... a prosecutor can charge anyone with anything. Winning a case is a whole different matter. Not a first amendment scholar but Assange is probably pretty safe on disseminating the information. But they claim he committed felonies obtaining it.