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> I asked her what happens after we get him fired? Can he earn back the worthiness to again feed his family? Will he need to denounce his views or just stop spe

by gwd 6y ago

> I asked her what happens after we get him fired? Can he earn back the worthiness to again feed his family? Will he need to denounce his views or just stop spewing them publicly? Will he just need to collect unemployment for the rest of his life now that we've deemed him a heretic unworthy of work? As someone who's a devout Christian, it's quite interesting to me to see how the same anti-patterns which plague zealous religious movements -- intolerance, judgementalism, lack of an avenue for repentance / rehabilitation, unquestionable dogmas, inquisitions to root out heresies, factionalism, etc -- plague the progressive movement as well. "So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me." - The Apostle Paul

ngngngng 6y ago
We're certainly witnessing a religion. Just one without mercy, repentance, or atonement.
dcsilver 6y ago
So true. Far too many people today, many of whom I suspect have a recent inclination to harboring particular political views at all, are missing the entire point of politics - that it's a debate. It's the great debate, the one that we set up entire electoral systems to have, and built entire buildings in which it would be held. Today, a dangerous number of people are outright enraged by having their dogmatic political beliefs challenged, and they'll go to great lengths to ensure that you can't share yours. It's a mess. Years ago, attempts at political conversation were more often than not met with indifference and you had to find like-minded people interested in having them. We used to bemoan that too few people were engaged in politics. Who knew that it would be this much of a mess once they were.
- geodel 6y ago
  I am not surprised by this at all. Somewhere I read that 'The more strict the scriptures, the more interpretation is magnanimous and compassionate' And 'the more liberal the written text, interpretation will be very strict' Whenever I hear term 'climate denier' not even 'climate change denier' I know speaker is stewing in his own superiority and least bothered about actual improvement.
ThrowawayR2 6y ago
I think the common root between the two is a belief in having found a universal and unquestionable Truth from which it logically follows that anyone that denies that Truth must be "evil".
blub 6y ago
I've read somewhere once that the PC culture is precisely like a religion, but there is no absolution possible. You will eventually be damned whatever you do.
AnimalMuppet 6y ago
I'll go a step further. All this yelling at people may shut them up, but it doesn't change their hearts. It may even harden them. Someone's a racist? Getting them to stop lynching people is necessary, absolutely. Getting them to stop using the n-word is needed for a civilized society. But more deeply, they need their heart changed, not just their external behavior. They need to see "those people" as being of equal value to themselves. Well, the only thing I know that can change hearts that way is the gospel of Jesus Christ. (Note well: I did not say "going to church". That's not the same thing.)

by gwd 6y ago

ngngngng 6y ago

We're certainly witnessing a religion. Just one without mercy, repentance, or atonement.

dcsilver 6y ago

So true. Far too many people today, many of whom I suspect have a recent inclination to harboring particular political views at all, are missing the entire point of politics - that it's a debate. It's the great debate, the one that we set up entire electoral systems to have, and built entire buildings in which it would be held. Today, a dangerous number of people are outright enraged by having their dogmatic political beliefs challenged, and they'll go to great lengths to ensure that you can't share yours. It's a mess. Years ago, attempts at political conversation were more often than not met with indifference and you had to find like-minded people interested in having them. We used to bemoan that too few people were engaged in politics. Who knew that it would be this much of a mess once they were.

geodel 6y ago
I am not surprised by this at all. Somewhere I read that 'The more strict the scriptures, the more interpretation is magnanimous and compassionate' And 'the more liberal the written text, interpretation will be very strict' Whenever I hear term 'climate denier' not even 'climate change denier' I know speaker is stewing in his own superiority and least bothered about actual improvement.

ThrowawayR2 6y ago

I think the common root between the two is a belief in having found a universal and unquestionable Truth from which it logically follows that anyone that denies that Truth must be "evil".

blub 6y ago

I've read somewhere once that the PC culture is precisely like a religion, but there is no absolution possible. You will eventually be damned whatever you do.

AnimalMuppet 6y ago

I'll go a step further. All this yelling at people may shut them up, but it doesn't change their hearts. It may even harden them. Someone's a racist? Getting them to stop lynching people is necessary, absolutely. Getting them to stop using the n-word is needed for a civilized society. But more deeply, they need their heart changed, not just their external behavior. They need to see "those people" as being of equal value to themselves. Well, the only thing I know that can change hearts that way is the gospel of Jesus Christ. (Note well: I did not say "going to church". That's not the same thing.)