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You did not address why "he doesnt owe you anything" is wrong. You just said that you are invested in the story and waiting for long time. Look, if the story w

You did not address why "he doesnt owe you anything" is wrong. You just said that you are invested in the story and waiting for long time. Look, if the story was not finished when you started to read, it was your decision, but the author is not obliged to do anything related to a book after publishing it. This is not the first, nor will be the last, story that is left unfinished, and it is not the end of the world. If you need an ending, imagine one! Once the story has been published, it is not solely the authors, you are free to plot and theorize and invent. If later on the author does something different, you did not win or lose anything if your endings match or not.

thewhitetulip 6y ago
> he doesnt owe you anything It is not a binding contract, yes. But it is an unwritten rule to finish the current work of art, don't you agree? Sure, he is not breaking the law or anything like that. But it breaks the trust in the writer, or at least I think so. The reason he is successful is because people read it. Yes, we can imagine the ending. But it is not unfair to those who bought his books.
- slowmovintarget 6y ago
  There is no social contract for concluding a series. Do I want Jim Butcher to finish the Dresden Files? Oh my, yes. Do I think he owes me more books because I've read all the current ones? Absolutely not. I'll devour the new ones when they come out, but they are treats, luxuries, that I pay for. Jim Butcher owes me nothing. GRRM owes the publisher a finished manuscript if he has an actual legal contract. But that's about it.
  - thewhitetulip 6y ago
    > There is no social contract for concluding a series. I never said there is a social contract. I said that he is breaching the trust in readers. The trust that made him rich and famous in the first place. There is. People bought his first 5 books because he had promised he'd release the 6th and 7th book by 2019 and 2020. If they knew he'd never release them, they'd have not bought it. He is rich and famous because we readers bought his books way before he was famous. if millions wouldn't have bought his books, he'd not have been famous and you wouldn't come here to defend him. We readers, collectively are owed a book, not personally. And the main issue which you ignore is that he is writing prequels upon prequels. That is the main problem I have.
    - harperlee 6y ago
      > If they knew he'd never release them, they'd have not bought it. Im sorry but that is ridiculous. People in general dont evaluate that when reading or recommending a book. When only 1 book was written, people read it, loved it and recommended it. As it was: 1 sole book. Not due to a plan to have 6 more books afterwards.
      - thewhitetulip 6y ago
        Considering your other comments, I think that you don't know which book/author I am talking about. A song of Ice and Fire is not a single, individual novel. It is an epic saga which is broken across eight books. This is not like 'not a penny more, not a penny less' which was a standalone book by Jeffrey Archer or 11.22.63, another standalone book by Stephen King. I am not holding my breath out for 11.22.64 demanding that King write a sequel to it. No sir. Why everyone is holding their breath for GoT is that it is an unfinished book which was announced as a 8part series. > People in general dont evaluate that when reading or recommending a book. LOL go talk to GoT fans. We've been waiting 11yrs for a sequel which was promised 8+yrs ago. Ask them what I said. 'Would you have read GoT if you knew that GRRM would rather write a prequel than finish the current series.' I am pretty sure everyone will say NO.
        harperlee 6y ago
        I know the books. I mentioned readers of the first book, not multi-year fans. Obviously those are already invested, you are biasing the sample. And you are changing the question.
        thewhitetulip 6y ago
        > you are biasing the sample And you are changing the topic now that your point is demolished. Adios.
        harperlee 6y ago
- harperlee 6y ago
  The unit is the book. He has concluded several.
  - thewhitetulip 6y ago
    You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. and you are absurdly and patently wrong. He himself has said that the last two books were actually one very-large-book. Truth be told, this is a series, so it more-or-less looks like one BIG story told over 8books. That is why I said that you're absurdly and patently wrong.

thewhitetulip 6y ago

> he doesnt owe you anything It is not a binding contract, yes. But it is an unwritten rule to finish the current work of art, don't you agree? Sure, he is not breaking the law or anything like that. But it breaks the trust in the writer, or at least I think so. The reason he is successful is because people read it. Yes, we can imagine the ending. But it is not unfair to those who bought his books.

slowmovintarget 6y ago
There is no social contract for concluding a series. Do I want Jim Butcher to finish the Dresden Files? Oh my, yes. Do I think he owes me more books because I've read all the current ones? Absolutely not. I'll devour the new ones when they come out, but they are treats, luxuries, that I pay for. Jim Butcher owes me nothing. GRRM owes the publisher a finished manuscript if he has an actual legal contract. But that's about it.
- thewhitetulip 6y ago
  > There is no social contract for concluding a series. I never said there is a social contract. I said that he is breaching the trust in readers. The trust that made him rich and famous in the first place. There is. People bought his first 5 books because he had promised he'd release the 6th and 7th book by 2019 and 2020. If they knew he'd never release them, they'd have not bought it. He is rich and famous because we readers bought his books way before he was famous. if millions wouldn't have bought his books, he'd not have been famous and you wouldn't come here to defend him. We readers, collectively are owed a book, not personally. And the main issue which you ignore is that he is writing prequels upon prequels. That is the main problem I have.
  - harperlee 6y ago
    > If they knew he'd never release them, they'd have not bought it. Im sorry but that is ridiculous. People in general dont evaluate that when reading or recommending a book. When only 1 book was written, people read it, loved it and recommended it. As it was: 1 sole book. Not due to a plan to have 6 more books afterwards.
    - thewhitetulip 6y ago
      Considering your other comments, I think that you don't know which book/author I am talking about. A song of Ice and Fire is not a single, individual novel. It is an epic saga which is broken across eight books. This is not like 'not a penny more, not a penny less' which was a standalone book by Jeffrey Archer or 11.22.63, another standalone book by Stephen King. I am not holding my breath out for 11.22.64 demanding that King write a sequel to it. No sir. Why everyone is holding their breath for GoT is that it is an unfinished book which was announced as a 8part series. > People in general dont evaluate that when reading or recommending a book. LOL go talk to GoT fans. We've been waiting 11yrs for a sequel which was promised 8+yrs ago. Ask them what I said. 'Would you have read GoT if you knew that GRRM would rather write a prequel than finish the current series.' I am pretty sure everyone will say NO.
      - harperlee 6y ago
        I know the books. I mentioned readers of the first book, not multi-year fans. Obviously those are already invested, you are biasing the sample. And you are changing the question.
        thewhitetulip 6y ago
        > you are biasing the sample And you are changing the topic now that your point is demolished. Adios.
        harperlee 6y ago
harperlee 6y ago
The unit is the book. He has concluded several.
- thewhitetulip 6y ago
  You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. and you are absurdly and patently wrong. He himself has said that the last two books were actually one very-large-book. Truth be told, this is a series, so it more-or-less looks like one BIG story told over 8books. That is why I said that you're absurdly and patently wrong.