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IPv4 addresses are becoming valuable
- eli 16y agoI would imagine that a block is much more valuable than the sum of its parts, so it's not quite right that a single IP is now worth $11.
- dexen 16y agoBoth for the ease of managing it (including setting up the routing) and because you realistically need at least 4 addresses for every subnet (/30 bitmask) -- two used up for broadcast and gateway address.
- jauer 16y agoRFC 3021 eliminates the subnet and broadcast addresses so /31 is usable. That doubles your available space if you are primarily addressing links between routers.
- pieter 16y agoI wonder what Microsoft is going to do with the block. If you have a valid use for addresses, you can still get them pretty much for free right now, though that'll change in a few months. Perhaps they're just hoarding them for the future already?
- adulau 16y agoNortel is selling IPv4 addresses? It's bit difficult to sell something that is officially owned by the RIR (in this case: ARIN). Maybe Nortel (or the buyer) should review the current policy of allocation and assignment from ARIN : https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html
- pieter 16y agoIt says in the article that their IP space is from a legacy block, which means it's has never been given by IANA to any RIR, so ARIN can't make a claim on it. Not sure how they'd get 666k addresses out of legacy space though :).
- adulau 16y agoI'm not sure that legacy blocks can be really transferable with an exchange of money. http://www.merit.edu/events/mmc/pdf/2008_Stovall_ARIN.pdf http://www.merit.edu/events/mmc/pdf/2008_Stovall_ARIN.pdf It seems as long as right holder is changed in the whoisdb... it seems fine.
- wmf 16y agoThe situation has changed since 2008; maybe look at more recent ARIN policy.
- jedsmith 16y agoThey specifically allow it now, and I don't think this article has to do with 47/8. They probably cannot transfer 47/8. There are other, smaller allocations in ARIN WHOIS; my officemate rattled them off out loud but I couldn't add in my head fast enough. Dig through WHOIS, it probably adds up to 666k.
- tsvk 16y agoIs this really the case the IP blocks can be sold onwards? I always thought that IP address allocations were assigned by IANA (through the local regional registries like ARIN and RIPE), and as such were not any property of the assignee to be sold. If an address range was not needed anymore and the assignee surrendered control of them, they would return to the free IP address pool at the regional registry.
- wmf 16y agoYou can now perform a "specified transfer" to another entity, and if some money flows in the reverse direction, ARIN says they don't care. There's even "Craigslist for IP addresses": https://www.arin.net/resources/request/stls.html https://www.arin.net/resources/request/stls.html
- ldng 16y agoWell, now we see why IPv6 is so slow to be implemented ... After food, oil, here comes the ip speculation. Not viable in the long term but meanwhile some will do a few bucks.
- AndrewDucker 16y agoActually, speculation should drive up prices, which will encourage people to move to v6 faster...
- uyhtghj 16y agoNo - a secret cabal of big-IP companies will conspire to prevent it, like they do with the electric car
- zokier 16y agoInteresting that the sale was on 666 thousand addresses, while Nortel has afaik a whole /8, 16.7M addresses. Where's the rest of them?
- usertm 16y agoDifferent parts are sold to different parties, but I would bet on Ericcson. They bought major assets of Nortel legacy.
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- jedsmith 16y agoSince that's legacy from IANA, maybe they can't transfer it? My officemate found a significant number of smaller allocations belonging to them.
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- aurora72 16y agoISPs charge money for static IP. And now we see it's being bought and sold. Isn't that a shame?
- CountSessine 16y agoWhat will be a shame is when your ISP decides your routable address is worth $11 to them and they sell it out from under you, leaving you behind an ISP-level NAT.