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The Senate’s new anti-encryption bill is even worse than EARN IT

59 points by DiabloD3 6y ago

8organicbits 6y ago
> Instead, the government can require the system to be redesigned. No thanks.
- Nasrudith 6y ago
  Yeah I wonder legally what is in place precisely to stop someone from just telling the secret court to go fuck themselves or pleading the 13th? The secrecy they claim as a pretense would be ruined if cryptographers go missing. Whoops operation compromised from the start. Revealing what was obvious from the start that it is a fucking fascist tool of abuse by minds incapable of comprehending irony. These are same the dumb fucks who would fire people for being gay out of fear that they would be blackmailed disregarding that their policy is the source of blackmailability.
abecedarius 6y ago
Longer discussion at https://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/blog/2020/06/there%E2%80%99s-now-even-worse-anti-encryption-bill-earn-it-doesn%E2%80%99t-make-earn-it-bill-ok https://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/blog/2020/06/there%E2%80%99s-n...
perl4ever 6y ago
"require that manufacturers of encrypted devices and operating systems, communications providers, and many others must have the ability to decrypt data upon request" Would the unintended effect be maybe just to eliminate commercial encryption software and force everyone to use open source?
- abecedarius 6y ago
  From the link I posted in another comment: > The bill is so broadly worded that I think it might apply to individual contributors to open-source projects, such as, say, the Linux kernel, but I’m not sure and I don’t want to scare everybody. But the bigger picture is that this bill is part of a strategy. It's meant to make EARN IT look less unreasonable by comparison. A unified strategy needs a unified response.
someguy7839e 6y ago
Does this affect open source? PGP, cryptsetup, veracrypt and more? How do they factor in?
personjerry 6y ago
More digestible version I made: https://thinkerapp.com/shared/MessyRadiantCaracal https://thinkerapp.com/shared/MessyRadiantCaracal Context: This is a highlighted summary generated with an app I built to help myself approach all the drier HN links I was opening. I appreciate any feedback from the HN community on this project!
- hrishios 6y ago
  > More digestible version I made: https://thinkerapp.com/shared/MessyRadiantCaracal https://thinkerapp.com/shared/MessyRadiantCaracal > Context: This is a highlighted summary generated with an app I built to help myself approach all the drier HN links I was opening. I appreciate any feedback from the HN community on this project! Nicely done! Small suggestion I have is to add the expand functionality to tapping on the passage. It feels more natural and doesn't currently do anything.
  - personjerry 6y ago
    Thanks for the suggestion! Did you intuitively feel that the text was clickable?

59 points by DiabloD3 6y ago

8organicbits 6y ago

> Instead, the government can require the system to be redesigned. No thanks.

Nasrudith 6y ago
Yeah I wonder legally what is in place precisely to stop someone from just telling the secret court to go fuck themselves or pleading the 13th? The secrecy they claim as a pretense would be ruined if cryptographers go missing. Whoops operation compromised from the start. Revealing what was obvious from the start that it is a fucking fascist tool of abuse by minds incapable of comprehending irony. These are same the dumb fucks who would fire people for being gay out of fear that they would be blackmailed disregarding that their policy is the source of blackmailability.

abecedarius 6y ago

Longer discussion at https://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/blog/2020/06/there%E2%80%99s-now-even-worse-anti-encryption-bill-earn-it-doesn%E2%80%99t-make-earn-it-bill-ok https://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/blog/2020/06/there%E2%80%99s-n...

perl4ever 6y ago

"require that manufacturers of encrypted devices and operating systems, communications providers, and many others must have the ability to decrypt data upon request" Would the unintended effect be maybe just to eliminate commercial encryption software and force everyone to use open source?

abecedarius 6y ago
From the link I posted in another comment: > The bill is so broadly worded that I think it might apply to individual contributors to open-source projects, such as, say, the Linux kernel, but I’m not sure and I don’t want to scare everybody. But the bigger picture is that this bill is part of a strategy. It's meant to make EARN IT look less unreasonable by comparison. A unified strategy needs a unified response.

someguy7839e 6y ago

Does this affect open source? PGP, cryptsetup, veracrypt and more? How do they factor in?

personjerry 6y ago

More digestible version I made: https://thinkerapp.com/shared/MessyRadiantCaracal https://thinkerapp.com/shared/MessyRadiantCaracal Context: This is a highlighted summary generated with an app I built to help myself approach all the drier HN links I was opening. I appreciate any feedback from the HN community on this project!

hrishios 6y ago
> More digestible version I made: https://thinkerapp.com/shared/MessyRadiantCaracal https://thinkerapp.com/shared/MessyRadiantCaracal > Context: This is a highlighted summary generated with an app I built to help myself approach all the drier HN links I was opening. I appreciate any feedback from the HN community on this project! Nicely done! Small suggestion I have is to add the expand functionality to tapping on the passage. It feels more natural and doesn't currently do anything.
- personjerry 6y ago
  Thanks for the suggestion! Did you intuitively feel that the text was clickable?