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Your first example isn't about speech. The school had a policy of a white absence day (which is batshit, but whatever) and he expressly violated that as an act

Your first example isn't about speech. The school had a policy of a white absence day (which is batshit, but whatever) and he expressly violated that as an act of protest and got fired for breaking the rules. He'd been clearly opposed to it from the start and not censored. Be very careful with that second link, that story was spun like crazy in conservative circles, and even weeks later it's impossible to find an account of what happened from anything other than the lecturer's perspective. I mean, that Free Beacon story is one of the worst examples: find me anywhere in that story that quotes a student or explains what they were upset about. The go to Google News and search for the guy's name, and you find a giant list of stories from conservative outlets (and none from mainstream sources) all with the same odd skew to the reporting. I think the jury is still out about what exactly was offensive, I'm guessing it wasn't just because he read an MLK speech. UCLA has not said anything yet. The David Shor one is a good example though. Something crazy happened there and no one understands why he was fired.

dx87 6y ago
The first example says the school didn't make it mandatory for white people to stay home, it was just highly recommended. It doesn't look like he broke any rules, the school had just hoped everyone would fall in line and he was fired for not agreeing with them.
- newacct583 6y ago
  I had to go look that up again. It wasn't about this one incident. He wasn't even fired, he resigned after becoming the center of a huge protest movement on campus directed specifically at him (a self-described member of the conservative "Intellectual Dark Web"), then after suing the college for failing to protect him, and the resignation was part of the resulting settlement. Then he did the FOX tour and wrote an op-ed for the Journal and settled into his life as a conservative martyr. Yeah, he wasn't fired to keep him from complaining about white absence day.
  - marliechiller 6y ago
    He, and most of the rest of the IDW would not consider themselves conservative at all. In fact, only JPeterson considers himself conservative out of the commonly touted members. Dont misrepresent people because they dont fit your narrative
    - newacct583 6y ago
      I call him conservative because conservatives call him conservative. He writes opinion pieces for conservative media and goes on conservative opinion shows. The "IDW" (heh) gets labelled as conservative because it stands in firm opposition to a giant list of things that conservatives like to oppose. I mean, come on. There is a culture war. He picked a side. That's what I meant.
      - marliechiller 6y ago
        This is a dangerous way of thinking and doesnt help to close divisions that are opening up all over society at the moment. He is a left libertarian by his own admission and there are countless examples demonstrating this fact. Because something has some political overlap in some areas, does not mean it is of the same political ideology as whole. Individuals on both the left and right can agree on freedom of speech for example without being considered a puppet of the other side of the aisle. The same can be said on views about gender, immigration ad infinitum. There is a culture war, correct. But he did not pick a side based on its conservatism, rather he picked a side based on postmodernist ideology

dx87 6y ago

The first example says the school didn't make it mandatory for white people to stay home, it was just highly recommended. It doesn't look like he broke any rules, the school had just hoped everyone would fall in line and he was fired for not agreeing with them.

newacct583 6y ago
I had to go look that up again. It wasn't about this one incident. He wasn't even fired, he resigned after becoming the center of a huge protest movement on campus directed specifically at him (a self-described member of the conservative "Intellectual Dark Web"), then after suing the college for failing to protect him, and the resignation was part of the resulting settlement. Then he did the FOX tour and wrote an op-ed for the Journal and settled into his life as a conservative martyr. Yeah, he wasn't fired to keep him from complaining about white absence day.
- marliechiller 6y ago
  He, and most of the rest of the IDW would not consider themselves conservative at all. In fact, only JPeterson considers himself conservative out of the commonly touted members. Dont misrepresent people because they dont fit your narrative
  - newacct583 6y ago
    I call him conservative because conservatives call him conservative. He writes opinion pieces for conservative media and goes on conservative opinion shows. The "IDW" (heh) gets labelled as conservative because it stands in firm opposition to a giant list of things that conservatives like to oppose. I mean, come on. There is a culture war. He picked a side. That's what I meant.
    - marliechiller 6y ago
      This is a dangerous way of thinking and doesnt help to close divisions that are opening up all over society at the moment. He is a left libertarian by his own admission and there are countless examples demonstrating this fact. Because something has some political overlap in some areas, does not mean it is of the same political ideology as whole. Individuals on both the left and right can agree on freedom of speech for example without being considered a puppet of the other side of the aisle. The same can be said on views about gender, immigration ad infinitum. There is a culture war, correct. But he did not pick a side based on its conservatism, rather he picked a side based on postmodernist ideology