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No, because Apple makes money on subscriptions and retail purchases not on aggregating and reselling the data for advertisers.

sidibe 6y ago
Apple also makes money by selling their users to Google to do all that nasty stuff.
- chipotle_coyote 6y ago
  No, they really don't. Remember the fun we had making fun of Apple Maps? Why in the world would Apple have dropped Google as the back end for their original Maps program, right? Well, it was because back in 2011 or so, Google refused to give Apple access to true turn-by-turn navigation features unless Apple gave them more access to user data. Rather than do that, Apple decided to go it themselves, even though that made the Maps product worse for years. This is consistent with Apple's behavior in other fields. (Hey, Siri!) There are a lot of criticisms to be made of Apple, but "they're selling your data by proxy" just doesn't seem to be one of them.
  - andrepd 6y ago
    They really do. Check the other comment on this thread.
mrep 6y ago
Apple took a 9 Billion dollar payment from Google in 2018 for Google to be the default search engine [0]. [0]: https://dazeinfo.com/2018/10/01/apple-google-fee-iphone-search-engine/#:~:text=Back%20in%202014%2C%20Google%20paid,the%20span%20of%204%20years%3F https://dazeinfo.com/2018/10/01/apple-google-fee-iphone-sear...
- jquery 6y ago
  This doesn’t refute the parent.
parthdesai 6y ago
China :)
bobsil1 6y ago
iOS 14 also makes app ad tracking opt-in, Google would never.
yellow_postit 6y ago
Whatever happened to the concerns around Apple selling in China and what compromises they may have made for that?
cageface 6y ago
Google doesn't sell data, it sells targeted access to users based on that data. Let's be precise if we're going to discuss the practical privacy implications of both platforms. Meanwhile if you use iCloud backups all your data is one subpoena away from law enforcement.
- mrgreenfur 6y ago
  Correct. But why does google deserve to know everything about you? What does it matter if they can still browse everything about you and they happen to resell targeting. All still bad. I agree the Warrentless wiretaps are a problem for every American company, google included. My point stands, apples revenue is not from privacy violating advertising and has no motivation for data collection beyond product improvement

sidibe 6y ago

Apple also makes money by selling their users to Google to do all that nasty stuff.

chipotle_coyote 6y ago
No, they really don't. Remember the fun we had making fun of Apple Maps? Why in the world would Apple have dropped Google as the back end for their original Maps program, right? Well, it was because back in 2011 or so, Google refused to give Apple access to true turn-by-turn navigation features unless Apple gave them more access to user data. Rather than do that, Apple decided to go it themselves, even though that made the Maps product worse for years. This is consistent with Apple's behavior in other fields. (Hey, Siri!) There are a lot of criticisms to be made of Apple, but "they're selling your data by proxy" just doesn't seem to be one of them.
- andrepd 6y ago
  They really do. Check the other comment on this thread.

mrep 6y ago

Apple took a 9 Billion dollar payment from Google in 2018 for Google to be the default search engine [0]. [0]: https://dazeinfo.com/2018/10/01/apple-google-fee-iphone-search-engine/#:~:text=Back%20in%202014%2C%20Google%20paid,the%20span%20of%204%20years%3F https://dazeinfo.com/2018/10/01/apple-google-fee-iphone-sear...

jquery 6y ago
This doesn’t refute the parent.

parthdesai 6y ago

China :)

bobsil1 6y ago

iOS 14 also makes app ad tracking opt-in, Google would never.

yellow_postit 6y ago

Whatever happened to the concerns around Apple selling in China and what compromises they may have made for that?

cageface 6y ago

Google doesn't sell data, it sells targeted access to users based on that data. Let's be precise if we're going to discuss the practical privacy implications of both platforms. Meanwhile if you use iCloud backups all your data is one subpoena away from law enforcement.

mrgreenfur 6y ago
Correct. But why does google deserve to know everything about you? What does it matter if they can still browse everything about you and they happen to resell targeting. All still bad. I agree the Warrentless wiretaps are a problem for every American company, google included. My point stands, apples revenue is not from privacy violating advertising and has no motivation for data collection beyond product improvement