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I'm not sure that looking at what a user is typing into the comment box for the application really qualifies as a significant privacy violation. That presumes a

I'm not sure that looking at what a user is typing into the comment box for the application really qualifies as a significant privacy violation. That presumes a privacy model that isn't terribly intuitive or practical. Now, if they had evidence that the data from the keyboard was being sent up to a server, that'd be a different story.

patrickyeon 6y ago
In this case we're talking about apps monitoring the copy buffer when they aren't foregrounded. Your example of monitoring a comment box isn't what we're discussing. In the copy buffer example, I think a privacy model of "an app in the background can't read what I'm copy-pasting in other apps" seems very reasonable and fits my idea of what a "standard user" would expect. Personally, I would prefer a world where nothing can pull from the copy buffer, it needs to be actively pushed by the user. It seems crazy to me that that isn't the case.
- bredren 6y ago
  I agree. I am very surprised Apple started with a notification. This absolutely should be permission based like location or anything else. There are zero cases where TikTok or facebook should need my clipboard. A notification that they’ve already done it is not enough. It should tell you every time even if you approved it. The only explanation I can come up with for why Apple isn’t making this opt in like location is it is so widespread it would break many apps. I just can’t understand how, or why they wouldn’t announce a transition-by date like with Sign in by Apple.
- bredren 6y ago
  I agree. I am very surprised Apple started with a notification. This absolutely should be permission based like location or anything else. There are zero cases where TikTok or facebook should need my clipboard. A notification that they’ve already done it is not enough. It should tell you every time even if you approved it. The only explanation I can come up with for why Apple isn’t making this opt in like location is it is so widespread it would break many apps. I just can’t understand how, or why they wouldn’t announce a transition-by date like with Sign in with Apple.
- cbsmith 6y ago
  Ah, I did not understand what I was seeing. Thanks for the clarification.

patrickyeon 6y ago

In this case we're talking about apps monitoring the copy buffer when they aren't foregrounded. Your example of monitoring a comment box isn't what we're discussing. In the copy buffer example, I think a privacy model of "an app in the background can't read what I'm copy-pasting in other apps" seems very reasonable and fits my idea of what a "standard user" would expect. Personally, I would prefer a world where nothing can pull from the copy buffer, it needs to be actively pushed by the user. It seems crazy to me that that isn't the case.

bredren 6y ago
I agree. I am very surprised Apple started with a notification. This absolutely should be permission based like location or anything else. There are zero cases where TikTok or facebook should need my clipboard. A notification that they’ve already done it is not enough. It should tell you every time even if you approved it. The only explanation I can come up with for why Apple isn’t making this opt in like location is it is so widespread it would break many apps. I just can’t understand how, or why they wouldn’t announce a transition-by date like with Sign in by Apple.
bredren 6y ago
I agree. I am very surprised Apple started with a notification. This absolutely should be permission based like location or anything else. There are zero cases where TikTok or facebook should need my clipboard. A notification that they’ve already done it is not enough. It should tell you every time even if you approved it. The only explanation I can come up with for why Apple isn’t making this opt in like location is it is so widespread it would break many apps. I just can’t understand how, or why they wouldn’t announce a transition-by date like with Sign in with Apple.
cbsmith 6y ago
Ah, I did not understand what I was seeing. Thanks for the clarification.