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I agree, though I think there's also a more cynical side to it. I see it as a land-grab by Apple to bring use-cases that currently belong to the web, under the

by _bxg1 6y ago

I agree, though I think there's also a more cynical side to it. I see it as a land-grab by Apple to bring use-cases that currently belong to the web, under the umbrella of their app ecosystem. I'm still excited because I think the user experience will be legitimately much better. But I am a bit concerned about the implications.

ladberg 6y ago
Any time I try to order food on the web I feel like I have to make an account for some service I've never heard of and manually enter in credit card info. I fully welcome just being able to choose my order and pay with Apple Pay, nothing else needed.
- _bxg1 6y ago
  Sign in with Apple and Apple Pay already exist on the web. Though I guess, Apple can't force companies to offer it on the web.
- ryukafalz 6y ago
  That's an option on the web too though? Through both Apple's proprietary implementation and the standardized Payment Request API: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/apple_pay_on_the_web https://developer.apple.com/documentation/apple_pay_on_the_w... ...of course this requires developers to use it, but then so does App Clips.
  - _bxg1 6y ago
    Apple has a policy that any app developer who offers "Sign in with ___" for any company, has to also include "Sign in with Apple". That's not something they could do on the web.
    - djxfade 6y ago
      They could revoke your keys (in theory). I don't think they would though
      - _bxg1 6y ago
        You misunderstood; I'm saying Apple couldn't coerce a website into offering Sign in with Apple as an option, like they can with an app on the App Store.
        megablast 6y ago
        And they are saying that apple can do that. By threatening to revoke payment keys.
        tinus_hn 6y ago
        What kind of payment keys would they revoke for a website that does not offer ‘Pay with Apple Pay’?
        fiddlerwoaroof 6y ago
        To me, this is a feature: I don’t want to have a million passwords because some random developer doesn’t like my preferred authentication method. As a user, I prefer to pick a trusted authentication provider and use it everywhere because, in the end, it’s a lot simpler for me: I don’t need to remember half a million username/email/password combinations, I just need to be able to authenticate myself to Apple. Developers, web developers especially, often seem to forget that the browser is a _user_ agent. Instead, they force their aesthetic and functional preferences on me, when I have chosen fonts, colors, interactions and systems that I prefer to be able to use wherever possible.
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by _bxg1 6y ago

ladberg 6y ago

Any time I try to order food on the web I feel like I have to make an account for some service I've never heard of and manually enter in credit card info. I fully welcome just being able to choose my order and pay with Apple Pay, nothing else needed.

_bxg1 6y ago
Sign in with Apple and Apple Pay already exist on the web. Though I guess, Apple can't force companies to offer it on the web.
ryukafalz 6y ago
That's an option on the web too though? Through both Apple's proprietary implementation and the standardized Payment Request API: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/apple_pay_on_the_web https://developer.apple.com/documentation/apple_pay_on_the_w... ...of course this requires developers to use it, but then so does App Clips.
- _bxg1 6y ago
  Apple has a policy that any app developer who offers "Sign in with ___" for any company, has to also include "Sign in with Apple". That's not something they could do on the web.
  - djxfade 6y ago
    They could revoke your keys (in theory). I don't think they would though
    - _bxg1 6y ago
      You misunderstood; I'm saying Apple couldn't coerce a website into offering Sign in with Apple as an option, like they can with an app on the App Store.
      - megablast 6y ago
        And they are saying that apple can do that. By threatening to revoke payment keys.
        tinus_hn 6y ago
        What kind of payment keys would they revoke for a website that does not offer ‘Pay with Apple Pay’?
      - fiddlerwoaroof 6y ago
        To me, this is a feature: I don’t want to have a million passwords because some random developer doesn’t like my preferred authentication method. As a user, I prefer to pick a trusted authentication provider and use it everywhere because, in the end, it’s a lot simpler for me: I don’t need to remember half a million username/email/password combinations, I just need to be able to authenticate myself to Apple. Developers, web developers especially, often seem to forget that the browser is a _user_ agent. Instead, they force their aesthetic and functional preferences on me, when I have chosen fonts, colors, interactions and systems that I prefer to be able to use wherever possible.
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