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Or option B: american racism doesn't stop at blacks.

sien 6y ago
Perhaps, but Asian Americans do better than Caucasian Americans in a raft of measures : https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/06/19/the-rise-of-asian-americans/ https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/06/19/the-rise-of-asian...
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  There are only two measures there that compare Asian Americans to Caucausian Americans,and both are quite sensitive to being reflective of the high Asian immigration innrceent decades selected for highly educated individuals already qualified for work in highly paid fields, rather than Asians succeeding more from a similar starting point. IOW, they don't do much to cast doubt on racism adversely impacting Asian Americans.
jariel 6y ago
So when's the last time you had someone very foreign, who had difficulties with language and no social context over for beers? Most people don't hate or even loathe foreigners and certainly not Asians, but social circles everywhere tend to be pretty narrow. He may have had some nice students or profs invite him on the occasional thing out of social courtesy and genuine interest, but people really far from one another socially are not going to get tons of 'hang time'. As Uni becomes a little bit more simply 'where you go after high school' and more a social experience, as opposed to being a truly academic experience, I suggest this issue may even be exacerbated. I don't doubt the social isolation is real for people, but I don't think hostile language is where we need to go.
- bluntfang 6y ago
  >So when's the last time you had someone very foreign, who had difficulties with language and no social context over for beers? I work with a diverse group of individuals and go out for socialization at least once a month with my foreign peers who don't speak my language as their first language and were born and raised in another country. >I don't think hostile language is where we need to go. When the POTUS is demonizing Chinese people by saying things like "the china virus" it makes people not want to interact with Chinese people. Language is very important, and hostile language, especially against different nationalities, is an easy step.

sien 6y ago

Perhaps, but Asian Americans do better than Caucasian Americans in a raft of measures : https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/06/19/the-rise-of-asian-americans/ https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/06/19/the-rise-of-asian...

dragonwriter 6y ago
There are only two measures there that compare Asian Americans to Caucausian Americans,and both are quite sensitive to being reflective of the high Asian immigration innrceent decades selected for highly educated individuals already qualified for work in highly paid fields, rather than Asians succeeding more from a similar starting point. IOW, they don't do much to cast doubt on racism adversely impacting Asian Americans.

jariel 6y ago

So when's the last time you had someone very foreign, who had difficulties with language and no social context over for beers? Most people don't hate or even loathe foreigners and certainly not Asians, but social circles everywhere tend to be pretty narrow. He may have had some nice students or profs invite him on the occasional thing out of social courtesy and genuine interest, but people really far from one another socially are not going to get tons of 'hang time'. As Uni becomes a little bit more simply 'where you go after high school' and more a social experience, as opposed to being a truly academic experience, I suggest this issue may even be exacerbated. I don't doubt the social isolation is real for people, but I don't think hostile language is where we need to go.

bluntfang 6y ago
>So when's the last time you had someone very foreign, who had difficulties with language and no social context over for beers? I work with a diverse group of individuals and go out for socialization at least once a month with my foreign peers who don't speak my language as their first language and were born and raised in another country. >I don't think hostile language is where we need to go. When the POTUS is demonizing Chinese people by saying things like "the china virus" it makes people not want to interact with Chinese people. Language is very important, and hostile language, especially against different nationalities, is an easy step.