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Plivo is another Twilio competitor for voice and sms. Been using it for a while for mostly US sms, works fine: https://www.plivo.com/ https://www.plivo.com/

rsync 6y ago
Which, if any, of these Twilio competitors will allow me to CC: a SMS to an email address without involving third party providers ? I have begged Twilio engineers in person at multiple Signal and over email/support channels as well as the CEO and here in this very forum: For the Love Of God will you please add an 'email' twiml verb ? If you want to CC: a SMS to email currently, within Twilio, you need to build functions, sign up for a Sendgrid account, authenticate in sendgrid with real names and physical addresses ... It's a no-brainer use-case and it is nothing but pain to implement.
- redis_mlc 6y ago
  > It's a no-brainer Actually it's not: First, email and sms are different transport mechanisms. Second, email requires a To (envelope) address. Third, some mgmt. like bounce and DKIM/SPF is needed. You could write a subroutine to hide some of that, but I'm not sure there's a clear general solution.
  - rsync 6y ago
    A few things ... When I say that it is a no-brainer, I mean that it is a no-brainer feature ... that is, something that everyone would have a very ready use-case for. Second, I think we're all well aware of the vast gulf between email service and the mobile phone network. That's the point of a service like Twilio: they have both systems (email and SMS) terminating inside of their own cloud environment. This means that "forwarding" an SMS to an email address, which would be rocket science for me, is easy for them. In fact, it's so easy that we can readily describe exactly how to implement it: just give us an email verb in twiml.
    - social_quotient 6y ago
      What’s your use case here? Want to make sure I’m clear on it.
      - rsync 6y ago
        "What’s your use case here? Want to make sure I’m clear on it." There are a lot of ways I would use this, but the basic use-case is as follows ... my primary phone number lives at Twilio and I receive SMS with this simple twiml: <Response> <Message to='+14155551212'>{{From}}: {{Body}}</Message> </Response> ... and I would simply like to do this: <Response> <Message to='+14155551212'>{{From}}: {{Body}}</Message> <Message to='me@mydomain.com'>Subject: Incoming SMS {{Body}}</Message> </Response> ... whatever ... you get the idea. I just want an email verb that I can plug into twiml and use in programmable messaging. The immediate issues that comes to mind is spam and unwanted messages, etc., but that's easy to solve - just have a simple challenge/response proof that you own whatever email address you are sending to and only allow people to send to email addresses they own. I am, after all, just emailing myself. cc'ing SMS, in programmable messaging, is currently very very difficult and time consuming. You either need to host code at some third party site[1] or you need to sign up for a sendgrid account (again, third party, additional account, etc.) and write functions to pass onto the sendgrid account ... but you can't actually fire off emails from sendgrid unless you authenticate with actual real names and physical addresses ... I just want to cc: myself from within twiml. Christ. [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/44768719/can-i-forward-sms-to-an-email-using-only-a-twiml-bin https://stackoverflow.com/questions/44768719/can-i-forward-s...
- spotijk 6y ago
  You can do SMS to E-mail using Twilio if you don't mind applying some 3rd party software to do it. Have a look at the SMS Server. This product is able to forward SMS to e-mail and visa versa. Works with almost any SMS and e-mail provider including Twilio. Here's a link to the website: https://www.auronsoftware.com/products/sms-server/ https://www.auronsoftware.com/products/sms-server/ Disclaimer: Auron Software is my company and I'm the main developer.

rsync 6y ago

Which, if any, of these Twilio competitors will allow me to CC: a SMS to an email address without involving third party providers ? I have begged Twilio engineers in person at multiple Signal and over email/support channels as well as the CEO and here in this very forum: For the Love Of God will you please add an 'email' twiml verb ? If you want to CC: a SMS to email currently, within Twilio, you need to build functions, sign up for a Sendgrid account, authenticate in sendgrid with real names and physical addresses ... It's a no-brainer use-case and it is nothing but pain to implement.

redis_mlc 6y ago
> It's a no-brainer Actually it's not: First, email and sms are different transport mechanisms. Second, email requires a To (envelope) address. Third, some mgmt. like bounce and DKIM/SPF is needed. You could write a subroutine to hide some of that, but I'm not sure there's a clear general solution.
- rsync 6y ago
  A few things ... When I say that it is a no-brainer, I mean that it is a no-brainer feature ... that is, something that everyone would have a very ready use-case for. Second, I think we're all well aware of the vast gulf between email service and the mobile phone network. That's the point of a service like Twilio: they have both systems (email and SMS) terminating inside of their own cloud environment. This means that "forwarding" an SMS to an email address, which would be rocket science for me, is easy for them. In fact, it's so easy that we can readily describe exactly how to implement it: just give us an email verb in twiml.
  - social_quotient 6y ago
    What’s your use case here? Want to make sure I’m clear on it.
    - rsync 6y ago
      "What’s your use case here? Want to make sure I’m clear on it." There are a lot of ways I would use this, but the basic use-case is as follows ... my primary phone number lives at Twilio and I receive SMS with this simple twiml: <Response> <Message to='+14155551212'>{{From}}: {{Body}}</Message> </Response> ... and I would simply like to do this: <Response> <Message to='+14155551212'>{{From}}: {{Body}}</Message> <Message to='me@mydomain.com'>Subject: Incoming SMS {{Body}}</Message> </Response> ... whatever ... you get the idea. I just want an email verb that I can plug into twiml and use in programmable messaging. The immediate issues that comes to mind is spam and unwanted messages, etc., but that's easy to solve - just have a simple challenge/response proof that you own whatever email address you are sending to and only allow people to send to email addresses they own. I am, after all, just emailing myself. cc'ing SMS, in programmable messaging, is currently very very difficult and time consuming. You either need to host code at some third party site[1] or you need to sign up for a sendgrid account (again, third party, additional account, etc.) and write functions to pass onto the sendgrid account ... but you can't actually fire off emails from sendgrid unless you authenticate with actual real names and physical addresses ... I just want to cc: myself from within twiml. Christ. [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/44768719/can-i-forward-sms-to-an-email-using-only-a-twiml-bin https://stackoverflow.com/questions/44768719/can-i-forward-s...
spotijk 6y ago
You can do SMS to E-mail using Twilio if you don't mind applying some 3rd party software to do it. Have a look at the SMS Server. This product is able to forward SMS to e-mail and visa versa. Works with almost any SMS and e-mail provider including Twilio. Here's a link to the website: https://www.auronsoftware.com/products/sms-server/ https://www.auronsoftware.com/products/sms-server/ Disclaimer: Auron Software is my company and I'm the main developer.