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As far as i know Java and PHP became popular later in the 90s / early 2000s. Javascript was browser only until 2010, Ruby only became popular after Rails came o

As far as i know Java and PHP became popular later in the 90s / early 2000s. Javascript was browser only until 2010, Ruby only became popular after Rails came out mid-2000s. There is a decade gap there.

eitland 6y ago
> Javascript was browser only until 2010 Depending on how you look at it you are at least a decade too late: we Java folks had the Rhino Javascript engine back in the late 1990ies, and it had an interpreted mode since 1998: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhino_(JavaScript_engine) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhino_(JavaScript_engine) I think it is even mentioned in the Javascript in a Nutshell book by David Flanagan (I haven't read it since then but I studied that book as I wrote a map rendering system in Javascript back in school in 2005.)
- ricardobeat 6y ago
  True, I played with Rhino, Jack / JSGI early on, and did a couple projects with Aptana Jaxer around 2009. It was not really an option most developers would even consider, though. Node came out in 2009, and writing server-side JS was still a fringe practice for a couple more years, so 2010 is me being generous to avoid comments on the exact timeline ;) It really picked up mainstream adoption around 2011-2012.
  - SOLAR_FIELDS 6y ago
    Was Rhino ever anything other than a minefield that you were essentially pigeonholed into using for compatibility reasons or something similar? I have used it before but only because we had specific technical requirements that demanded we run Javascript on a server-side JVM implementation.
cutler 6y ago
At the end of the 90s Javascript was used to write a part of Dreamweaver and I mean the app itself, not the Javascript/HTML interface. So the language as always existed independently of browser implementations.
bitwize 6y ago
"Server-side JavaScript" was a feature of Netscape web servers in 1996.

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As far as i know Java and PHP became popular later in the 90s / early 2000s. Javascript was browser only until 2010, Ruby only became popular after Rails came o

by ricardobeat 6y ago

eitland 6y ago
> Javascript was browser only until 2010 Depending on how you look at it you are at least a decade too late: we Java folks had the Rhino Javascript engine back in the late 1990ies, and it had an interpreted mode since 1998: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhino_(JavaScript_engine) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhino_(JavaScript_engine) I think it is even mentioned in the Javascript in a Nutshell book by David Flanagan (I haven't read it since then but I studied that book as I wrote a map rendering system in Javascript back in school in 2005.)
- ricardobeat 6y ago
  True, I played with Rhino, Jack / JSGI early on, and did a couple projects with Aptana Jaxer around 2009. It was not really an option most developers would even consider, though. Node came out in 2009, and writing server-side JS was still a fringe practice for a couple more years, so 2010 is me being generous to avoid comments on the exact timeline ;) It really picked up mainstream adoption around 2011-2012.
  - SOLAR_FIELDS 6y ago
    Was Rhino ever anything other than a minefield that you were essentially pigeonholed into using for compatibility reasons or something similar? I have used it before but only because we had specific technical requirements that demanded we run Javascript on a server-side JVM implementation.
cutler 6y ago
At the end of the 90s Javascript was used to write a part of Dreamweaver and I mean the app itself, not the Javascript/HTML interface. So the language as always existed independently of browser implementations.
bitwize 6y ago
"Server-side JavaScript" was a feature of Netscape web servers in 1996.