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I think that no one in the comments recalled that the last times that older iPhones got the last updates, they became slower with reduced artificially reduced b

I think that no one in the comments recalled that the last times that older iPhones got the last updates, they became slower with reduced artificially reduced battery life. So somehow, despite getting updates, old iPhones were becoming less functional and users would get the feeling that they have to change it for a shiny new recent more powerful iPhone!

Jtsummers 6y ago
The battery life wasn't artificially reduced, it was naturally reduced by years of use and charge cycles. Apple should have done a better job of communicating why they slowed down the systems, and perhaps made it an option rather than just doing it, but having had devices that shutdown because of the battery (while it still had a charge, but was not capable of providing power to the CPU running at full-speed) I'd have preferred slow downs to random shutdowns. The latter makes the device unreliable and unusable, the former makes it reliable and maybe unusable for some applications. It's also rectifiable by replacing the battery (which I've done on several iPhones myself, and used stores for others just for the convenience). That last part is what Apple should have communicated to people. We did that with my dad's old iPhone 6 and it went from "slow but usable" to "like brand new and snappy". EDIT: A note, the device I had that did that to me was a laptop with a spinning disk hard drive. When the battery started failing the laptop was fine until I hit the GPU (which was often, I was in grad school and doing a lot of graphics programming). Plugged in there were no issue, but on battery it'd bring the system down when I ran anything that made the GPU and CPU run close to full-speed. Fortunately I was able to get the data off, unfortunately I'd pretty well fucked the system before I realized why it was happening (so it happened a few times) and ended up just replacing the whole laptop rather than just getting a new battery.
- greatgib 6y ago
  Indeed, you are right, they did not reduce the battery level but reduced the performances after the update. So before the update, your phone was reasonably fast. A new phone/os version comes out, you have an automatic update, and then your phone will be slower to do the tasks that it was doing well before. So, as an user what will be you conclusion? If you are not even aware that performance slow down is due to the update, you will think "my phone become older, I need to buy a more recent one!". For memory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batterygate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batterygate "Apple Confirms It Degrades Your Old iPhone's Performance" https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2017/12/20/apple-iphone-kill-switch-ios-degrade-cripple-performance-battery/#7dfd1fd116a8 https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2017/12/20/apple-iph... And to be remembered, they were fined for that by the French regulator: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51413724 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51413724

Jtsummers 6y ago

The battery life wasn't artificially reduced, it was naturally reduced by years of use and charge cycles. Apple should have done a better job of communicating why they slowed down the systems, and perhaps made it an option rather than just doing it, but having had devices that shutdown because of the battery (while it still had a charge, but was not capable of providing power to the CPU running at full-speed) I'd have preferred slow downs to random shutdowns. The latter makes the device unreliable and unusable, the former makes it reliable and maybe unusable for some applications. It's also rectifiable by replacing the battery (which I've done on several iPhones myself, and used stores for others just for the convenience). That last part is what Apple should have communicated to people. We did that with my dad's old iPhone 6 and it went from "slow but usable" to "like brand new and snappy". EDIT: A note, the device I had that did that to me was a laptop with a spinning disk hard drive. When the battery started failing the laptop was fine until I hit the GPU (which was often, I was in grad school and doing a lot of graphics programming). Plugged in there were no issue, but on battery it'd bring the system down when I ran anything that made the GPU and CPU run close to full-speed. Fortunately I was able to get the data off, unfortunately I'd pretty well fucked the system before I realized why it was happening (so it happened a few times) and ended up just replacing the whole laptop rather than just getting a new battery.

greatgib 6y ago
Indeed, you are right, they did not reduce the battery level but reduced the performances after the update. So before the update, your phone was reasonably fast. A new phone/os version comes out, you have an automatic update, and then your phone will be slower to do the tasks that it was doing well before. So, as an user what will be you conclusion? If you are not even aware that performance slow down is due to the update, you will think "my phone become older, I need to buy a more recent one!". For memory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batterygate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batterygate "Apple Confirms It Degrades Your Old iPhone's Performance" https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2017/12/20/apple-iphone-kill-switch-ios-degrade-cripple-performance-battery/#7dfd1fd116a8 https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2017/12/20/apple-iph... And to be remembered, they were fined for that by the French regulator: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51413724 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51413724