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This is very likely bad news for companies like Jamf. Apple is likely wanting to bring macOS/iOS management into their own product suite and tightly integrate

This is very likely bad news for companies like Jamf. Apple is likely wanting to bring macOS/iOS management into their own product suite and tightly integrate it in future products, much like what Microsoft did with Terminal Services, which nearly killed Citrix 20 years ago.

vondur 6y ago
Yes, it's puzzling. Apple had pretty much "blessed" JAMF as the goto way to manage Mac/iOS Devices in the enterprise. Most of the JAMF seminars/tech sessions I have been to usually had an Apple enterprise Rep on hand to work with.
cj 6y ago
This was also my first thought. It's surprising because JamF is recommended as the de facto (only serious) solution for people serious managing fleets.
- w0de 6y ago
  That’s simply not true, a marketing a line from jamf. There are several serious MDMs. Of big enterprises I know of just one that uses jamf, and they augment it with many, many questionable bash scripts.
  - cj 6y ago
    > a marketing a line from jamf My perspective comes from talking to anyone on the Apple Business team at the San Francisco union square location, and also reps from apple's general business support line. There are definitely a ton of other MDM solutions, but none that I've heard mentioned so frequently by apple employees as JamF.
    - w0de 6y ago
      Apple has long echoed this line (part of the reason their purchasing of fleetsmith, not jamf, is surprising). A sampling of MDMs that large companies you've heard of use: - vmware workspace one - bare metal micromdm - simplemdm - fleetsmith - kandji - jamf
    - caseyf7 6y ago
      My experience also. Apple business team recommended jamf every time.
  - samcat116 6y ago
    Right but Jamf is what enables you to deploy those bash scripts reliably.
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  - wpm 6y ago
    What enterprise management isn't chock full of questionable scripts? Shit, my org has over 15,000 group policy objects that have been collecting, getting linked across OUs, and duplicated for over 15 years. The whole thing is questionable. It works though.
- thetinguy 6y ago
  Apple uses JamF internally.

vondur 6y ago

Yes, it's puzzling. Apple had pretty much "blessed" JAMF as the goto way to manage Mac/iOS Devices in the enterprise. Most of the JAMF seminars/tech sessions I have been to usually had an Apple enterprise Rep on hand to work with.

cj 6y ago

This was also my first thought. It's surprising because JamF is recommended as the de facto (only serious) solution for people serious managing fleets.

w0de 6y ago
That’s simply not true, a marketing a line from jamf. There are several serious MDMs. Of big enterprises I know of just one that uses jamf, and they augment it with many, many questionable bash scripts.
- cj 6y ago
  > a marketing a line from jamf My perspective comes from talking to anyone on the Apple Business team at the San Francisco union square location, and also reps from apple's general business support line. There are definitely a ton of other MDM solutions, but none that I've heard mentioned so frequently by apple employees as JamF.
  - w0de 6y ago
    Apple has long echoed this line (part of the reason their purchasing of fleetsmith, not jamf, is surprising). A sampling of MDMs that large companies you've heard of use: - vmware workspace one - bare metal micromdm - simplemdm - fleetsmith - kandji - jamf
  - caseyf7 6y ago
    My experience also. Apple business team recommended jamf every time.
- samcat116 6y ago
  Right but Jamf is what enables you to deploy those bash scripts reliably.
  - deleted 6y ago
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- wpm 6y ago
  What enterprise management isn't chock full of questionable scripts? Shit, my org has over 15,000 group policy objects that have been collecting, getting linked across OUs, and duplicated for over 15 years. The whole thing is questionable. It works though.
thetinguy 6y ago
Apple uses JamF internally.