7 ms·
If you bought an iPhone 6S Plus 128GB at launch, it cost you $949. $189.80 per supported year so far. If you bought a Pixel 1 128GB at launch, it cost you $749
by JohnTHaller 6y ago
If you bought an iPhone 6S Plus 128GB at launch, it cost you $949. $189.80 per supported year so far.
If you bought a Pixel 1 128GB at launch, it cost you $749. $249.67 per supported year over 3 years.
(The iPhone 6S Plus has same 1080p resolution as the standard size Pixel phone, which is why I use them as the base, but for folks wondering...)
If you bought a Pixel 1 XL 128GB at launch with the higher resolution screen, it cost you $849. $283 per supported year over 3 years.
- huzaif 6y agoI like that the updates are offered. I wonder how usable these older devices are after updates. I have an iPhone 8 which hasn't been usable since the last update. Most functions work but the performance has taken a nose dive. Some apps crash randomly. I would not use that device as my daily phone.
- snazz 6y agoI'm guessing the iPhone 8 has some other issue (full storage?). Mine has had great performance and no app crashes since I bought it.
- laken 6y agoI've still been using an iPhone 8 Plus as a daily driver since launch. Right after updates, or after not being used for a bit, there's some indexing that slows down the phone a little, but that recovers pretty quickly with some additional use. I'm even running the iOS 14 Developer beta on my 8 Plus right now and it still runs like a dream.
- TheSpiceIsLife 6y agoMy near-new iPhone 7 is snappy with latest iOS. Check battery health?
- huzaif 6y agoThanks for all the hints. So it seems it's the device itself and not the update.
- throwaway20148 6y agoI had a 6S Plus until earlier this year when the port went on the fritz and car play started acting erratically. That was pretty much my sole reason for upgrading. Performance wasn’t great for a while but after the whole battery kerfuffle last year I took it into the store to get the battery replaced for $30 and it felt like a brand new phone after that.
- vladvasiliu 6y agoLike the siblings say, you may have some other problem. I have an iphone 7 that I always keep up to the date. I didn't notice any performace problem, and my battery is supposedly degraded (the settings page says I should change it).
- JohnTHaller 6y agoI have an iPhone 7 I bought for $110 recently on Swappa to mess around with iOS development. It runs the current iOS 13 version quite well. I'd suggest checking your battery health and maybe doing a reset.
- deleted 6y ago[deleted]
- spideymans 6y agoI have an iPhone 8 Plus. Still runs like its brand new. Perhaps a battery replacement or system restore would remedy your issues.
- unix_fan 6y agoI have the original SE. Same chip as the 6s. It's smooth as hell, even on the beta.
- hysan 6y agoI’ve had the 6S since shortly after launch and it still runs smooth. The only issue is the battery which I can probably get replaced if I wanted to ditch my portable battery. Prior to this, I had an iPhone 4 for many years. While it wasn’t apparent at the start, switching to the Apple ecosystem for my mobile devices has ultimately saved me a lot more money compared to my friends and family that use Android phones.
- silverlake 6y agoI’m reading your comment on my iPhone 8. It runs as well as the day I got it.
- neuronic 6y agoMy iPhone 8 has been my daily driver for 3 years now and runs like fresh out of the box. Battery degradation is the only issue but that's just natural wear and tear.
- harpratap 6y agoThe update cycle on Android is not so straightforward. For instance RCS messaging, a newly added feature, is also available on Pixel 1 and older devices because such updates are directly sent via playstore to all the phones. So you don't really need full OS updates like in iOS. Also, you are forgetting that Android phones drop in price almost immediately, so it's not fair to compare launch prices. For instance my Pixel 4 was essentially 74000JPY just 2 months after launch compared to 120000JPY iPhone 11 Pro year round.
- JohnTHaller 6y agoYou lose major OS updates after 2 years and security updates after 3. You really shouldn't be using a phone that's no longer getting security updates even if the apps themselves are getting updates. Even at those prices, the iPhone is still a bit less expensive per supported year.
- harpratap 6y agoPixel phones get 3 years of full OS updates, not 2. The difference comes out to be negligible 666JPY/year. And Samsung phones get even cheaper after launch, couple that with their 4 years of security updates their cost/year is substantially lower than Pixel or iPhone.
- GeekyBear 6y agoWell, one Pixel got three OS updates, but there has been no change in their written support policy that I've seen. Also, they cut off that particular Pixel from further updates right after switching to the .0 version of the new OS. Who in their right mind wants to be stuck with the buggy .0 version of an OS?
- harpratap 6y ago> Well, one Pixel got three OS updates, but there has been no change in their written support policy that I've seen. https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/10/4/16403922/google-pixel-2-phone-android-update-schedule https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/10/4/16403922/g... Every Pixel has 3 year of support mentioned in it's support page. > Who in their right mind wants to be stuck with the buggy .0 version of an OS? Android updates have changed over time, they didn't do 9.1 or 10.1 updates at all. All bug fixes are pushed alongside security patches. And Pixel 1 got 4 updates on Android 10, last one being especially a month late due to fixing of all final bugs.
- chinesempire 6y agoYeah, but I can install one of the many unofficial Android builds over and old Android phone. My mom still uses my old Galaxy S2, which probably costed 50 euros/year over almost 10 years and supports Android 10 thanks to LineageOS. An iPhone's faith is to become a doorstop no matter what.
- akmarinov 6y agoYou can jailbreak it and mess with it however you want. Unofficially of course.
- chinesempire 6y agoWhat's the point if you can't update the OS and if you do you have to jailbreak it again, every time, until you reach a point where you device is not supported or there's no jailbreak available and you are back to the doorstop? Unofficial Android builds are fully supported, maintained and updatable builds, they simply are not released by the phone vendor or Google.
- akmarinov 6y agoIf you can’t update it, the jailbreak is permanent, it’s again by the people as you describe.
- chinesempire 6y ago> If you can’t update it That's the original point you can' update your phone, because it's not yours If you're happy, good for you, but it's not ok.
- JohnTHaller 6y agoMost Android phones don't have a 'supported' version of LineageOS. It's very hit or miss, usually miss. Hence why my Nexus 6 and my girlfriend's Pixel have supported versions but none of the other Nexus or Pixel phones do. Or the HTC One m8 has a supported build but no other HTC phones do.
- chewz 6y agoI have got my Android phone with twice the resolution of iPhone 6S for $100. And recently updated (after long delay) to Android 10. Another year to go or more. So it is more like 25$ per year for Android. Not a perfect phone but good enough.
- mahesh_rm 6y agoWhat phone is it. I seem to average to ~200usd per year on Android as well, in order to have a functional device.
- chewz 6y agoI went for Xperia 10. Camera sucks but otherwise the phone does the job remarkably well. 90% functionality for 10% price and I don't need to worry about loosing or breaking it. Of course the phone is de-Googled and runs on stock European Android without operator's crapware which is also nice about Xperias. Full factory install takes 15 minutes with newflasher. I do not enjoy iPhones and Apple's miserable software in general. I am running ChromeOS/debian on my Macbook Pro (the last good model) for years now. Guess that makes me odd guy..
- x2f10 6y agoIt's not reasonable to compare on resolution alone. Not to mention, the iPhone 6S and Pixel were both flagship devices in the period OP is discussing.
- neuronic 6y agoBetter resolution yet takes 5 seconds to open and paint the app drawer... great.
- arcticfox 6y agoI think a key (deceptively absent) point of that comparison is that the premium price on Android is coming from replacing it after 3 years. So basically from years 3-5 you are using a 2018 Pixel 3 as opposed to a 2015 iPhone 6S Plus.
- zepto 6y agoPerformance of the cheapest iPhone available today is greater than the most expensive android phone, so this is a moot point. You need to upgrade the Android hardware just to maintain parity.
- ac29 6y agoCPU performance, sure. But there are other things like power consumption, cameras, LTE performance and band support, etc that are also a factor. Personally, I dont think CPU performance has been an important factor for years on midrange and higher phones, but that's a matter of opinion.
- zepto 6y agoCPU performance directly impacts performance of those other elements.
- Twisell 6y agoBut that's totally the opposite of the common (and maybe false) narrative that Apple is pushing users to upgrade faster than their counterparts.
- GeekyBear 6y agoThe iPhone 5s got six years of OS and security updates. The six got cut off after "only" five years because it didn't have enough RAM to run the current version of iOS. Now the original SE and 6s will also receive that sixth year of support. If you bought that original iPhone SE, that works out to $67 per supported year.
- 6y ago
- jdofaz 6y agoThe screen on the Pixel is 0.5 inch smaller than the 6s plus
- nisten 6y agoNot only that but it's pentile amoled, meaning total subpixel count is only 2/3 of the iphones lcd screen.
- lostmsu 6y agoOLEDs also cost about $100-$150 more than IPS even now.
- JohnTHaller 6y agoCorrect and updated my original post. My point still stands about resolution, though. The 6s has a 4.7" 750p screen, so doesn't exactly compare to the 5" 1080p Pixel screen. But even with that screen size difference, the iPhone wins. Handily.
- Eric_WVGG 6y agoIf you bought an iPhone SE 64gb at launch, it cost you $499. $120 per support year so far. best. smartphone. ever. (I actually just dug mine out to give it another go, but the battery is nuked from sitting untouched for eighteen months :\ )
- youeseh 6y agoI can't wait for the iPhone 12 announcement. Rumor has it that we'll finally be able to upgrade to a newer small iPhone.
- suprfnk 6y agoSuch a rumor has been circling every year since the original iPhone SE was released. I do still really hope so though...
- say-vagnes 6y agoI finally bit the bullet and upgraded from a SE, compromising on the size of the phone. I already notice increased wrist stress and place more sideways weight than is optimal on my pinky (to hold the phone up but also be able to reach single-handed). So, knowing how life works, we can guarantee that Apple will release a small form factor phone as part of their next offering ;)
- saagarjha 6y agoApparently it's not that small, sadly :( But it might be the only one I can buy as my iPhone SE ages out of the support window soon.
- GeekyBear 6y agoIt's said to be smaller than the new SE and just a couple of millimeters bigger than the original SE. >the 5.4-inch iPhone won’t be much bigger than the original (2016) 4-inch iPhone SE 131 x 64 mm (5.15 x 2.51-inches) https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2020/05/07/apple-iphone-12-size-display-release-cameras-notch-5g-upgrade-iphone-11-pro-max/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2020/05/07/apple-ip...
- devxpy 6y agoYou're completely ignoring the flagship killer market here. You can buy a poco f1 (Snapdragon 835) for 250$ that will perform just as well as any pixel. For that price you can buy a new flagship killer every year.