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I had the "pleasure" to work with Ex-Googlers which had "Project Managers at G" in their resume. Honestly, I do not wonder anymore why Google nowadays s#ck as h
by franze 6y ago
I had the "pleasure" to work with Ex-Googlers which had "Project Managers at G" in their resume. Honestly, I do not wonder anymore why Google nowadays s#ck as hard as they do.
They made great presentations and a grand plans using some project management saas tools. But both of them neither understood the basics of projectmanagement (Who does what when and what do they need when?) nor could react when challenged.
Both of them were lower to middle management, but sure as hell anything that you hand them would end in total mediocrity if not fail at all.
On the other hand one of the most capable front end engineers I knew joined Google for 2 years. Where he spent most of his time - with a whole team - working on .... fold in and fold out animations (for a single mobile product)
He quit. Google now is one of his customers. His work has gotten much more interesting.
Google / Alphabet - the organization - did not scale well. My bet: There will be a huge crisis soon. Lots of G-people will loose their jobs.
- Axsuul 6y agoInteresting how you are basing your assumptions on two ex-employees who no longer work there probably because of what you experienced, not to mention the small sample size.
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- franze 6y agoyes, it's definitely anecdotal. so please see it this way.
- jldugger 6y agoYou tell a nice story with the data, but I cannot dismiss the potential selection bias: perhaps these PMs were not up to Google's standards and were invited to leave?
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- franze 6y agoyes, i am aware of it. on the other hand which PR-ides itself with one of the hardest hiring selection process on the market it might be a statement about this process.
- jldugger 6y agoDoes Google's project manager interview panel have a reputation for rigor, or is this just the engineering panel reputation rubbing off?
- bagacrap 6y agoI imagine it must be harder to hire PMs without making decision mistakes given that their job skills are harder to test for in an interview setting.
- wutbrodo 6y agoI don't know if it's a "nowadays" thing. I joined Google 10 years ago and was there for a while, and I remember getting the distinct impression both internally and from looking at our products that we had world-class engineers and incredibly bad PMs, compared to the competition.