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Are people doing anything complex or performant with Node? Isn't it just good for non-block ops, like a proxy or something? Usually the more complex systems th

Are people doing anything complex or performant with Node? Isn't it just good for non-block ops, like a proxy or something? Usually the more complex systems that use Java are going to hire more experienced/better devs. So higher pay.

JS2Java 6y ago
> Are people doing anything complex or performant with Node? Node excels at getting to market quickly with reasonable performance. I'm not really sure how to answer the performance question, because other than LuaJIT it's one of the fastest scripting languages. > like a proxy or something? For me, a proxy is better suited to Go. I've been building REST servers and websocket servers in Node.js though.
urthen 6y ago
I wrote a quick Node Proof of Concept for a high-throughput data processing pipeline before the "real" team came in and rewrote it in Java. Not only did the "real" team try and gaslight me into thinking my implementation didn't work (It did, they copied it wrong), but it took 3 engineers twice the time it took to copy my work into Java as it did for me to do the original development. The kicker: The Java process was so bloated it took nearly 2x the compute resources to get the same throughput. TL;DR I challenge every time someone says "This is complex/high throughput, so let's use Java instead of Node"
- mrath 6y ago
  Yes, like you said for PoC node is perfectly capable. When people say complex and high throughput then things like say Kafka or ERPs, banking software come into my mind. What are some of the biggest systems running on node? Sorry not challenging but curious to know. I have not heard of any popular big systems written in node.
  - throw51319 6y ago
    Yeah I work on a complex and scalable system for a bank using Java with Akka. Could Node be as scalable in this regard?
- throw51319 6y ago
  Yeah but don't you find digesting, creating a mental model, and then recreating someone else's work (esp in a diff language) to be more complicated than just writing something of your own from scratch? I kinda do. Also, just curious, what things from a data processing pipeline standpoint does Node do well in? What does it not do well in? Would Java ultimately be the most scalable?

JS2Java 6y ago

> Are people doing anything complex or performant with Node? Node excels at getting to market quickly with reasonable performance. I'm not really sure how to answer the performance question, because other than LuaJIT it's one of the fastest scripting languages. > like a proxy or something? For me, a proxy is better suited to Go. I've been building REST servers and websocket servers in Node.js though.

urthen 6y ago

I wrote a quick Node Proof of Concept for a high-throughput data processing pipeline before the "real" team came in and rewrote it in Java. Not only did the "real" team try and gaslight me into thinking my implementation didn't work (It did, they copied it wrong), but it took 3 engineers twice the time it took to copy my work into Java as it did for me to do the original development. The kicker: The Java process was so bloated it took nearly 2x the compute resources to get the same throughput. TL;DR I challenge every time someone says "This is complex/high throughput, so let's use Java instead of Node"

mrath 6y ago
Yes, like you said for PoC node is perfectly capable. When people say complex and high throughput then things like say Kafka or ERPs, banking software come into my mind. What are some of the biggest systems running on node? Sorry not challenging but curious to know. I have not heard of any popular big systems written in node.
- throw51319 6y ago
  Yeah I work on a complex and scalable system for a bank using Java with Akka. Could Node be as scalable in this regard?
throw51319 6y ago
Yeah but don't you find digesting, creating a mental model, and then recreating someone else's work (esp in a diff language) to be more complicated than just writing something of your own from scratch? I kinda do. Also, just curious, what things from a data processing pipeline standpoint does Node do well in? What does it not do well in? Would Java ultimately be the most scalable?