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As soon as I saw it was audio only, i left the site. Why do sites do this? How many people actually stick to the page and listen to that?

asveikau 6y ago
> How many people actually stick to the page and listen to that? I just did. 3 minutes wasn't that bad and I wasn't somewhere where it would be a problem. > Why do sites do this? NPR is a radio network. I have seen that often they do transcribe their clips. I am not sure what the process they have for that looks like, but it seems this particular clip didn't get transcribed. Edit: looks like they do have a transcription mentioned elsewhere in the thread. So seems like some kind of UI fail.
danso 6y ago
NPR does transcribe (many, most?) its audio stories, but usually there's a delay of a day or so – the published timestamp for this story is 5:06AM (ET) today. edit: looks like there's a text version of the article. I'm assuming this is a CMS issue: there's an audio story and a "print story", but the former hadn't been linked to the latter: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23628790 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23628790
- dhosek 6y ago
  They transcribe all their stories. Back before the web was widespread, you could call or write NPR and have them mail a transcript to you.
013a 6y ago
Well, if anyone were going to do it, you'd think no one would be surprised about it being the "National Public Radio"
- dvtrn 6y ago
  Accessibility still matters, or should still matter even if you’re a radio station, but probably especially if you’re a news radio station.
  - scarface74 6y ago
    How many TV shows have audio descriptions of non verbal parts of what you see on screen?
    - dvtrn 6y ago
      More than zero. It's called closed captioning, isn't it? I've quite often seen closed-captioning that put brief written descriptions of non-verbal depictions in bracket, and it's not entirely common either https://www.automaticsync.com/captionsync/what-qualifies-as-high-quality-closed-captioning/ https://www.automaticsync.com/captionsync/what-qualifies-as-... (see section: "High Quality Captioning")
      - scarface74 6y ago
        Close captioning is for people who can’t hear. I am not aware of many TV shows that offer audio commentary for the visually impaired. Here is an example of one that does. https://www.npr.org/2015/04/18/400590705/after-fan-pressure-netflix-makes-daredevil-accessible-to-the-blind https://www.npr.org/2015/04/18/400590705/after-fan-pressure-...
        dvtrn 6y ago
        Sorry, I thought that since we were originally talking about transcriptions of radio news broadcasts and accessibility for the hard of hearing that closed-captioning would be appropriate and relevant. But your point is well met.
  - vermontdevil 6y ago
    NPR is fantastic when it comes to accessibility by providing transcripts. I linked the page thinking the transcript will come later as they usually do. But turns out it was a wrong link. See elsewhere for the correct link.
scarface74 6y ago
Why do radio sites post audio?
ajzinsbwbs 6y ago
Most people are going to hear the story on the radio or in a podcast app / RSS feed. It’s useful to have the story indexed on a shareable web link where it can be played on different platforms without any setup. If I wanted to share a podcast episode with friends in a group chat, a link like this would be a good way to do it. Since this is more of a long-form text discussion forum I’d probably look for a text format before posting here.

asveikau 6y ago

> How many people actually stick to the page and listen to that? I just did. 3 minutes wasn't that bad and I wasn't somewhere where it would be a problem. > Why do sites do this? NPR is a radio network. I have seen that often they do transcribe their clips. I am not sure what the process they have for that looks like, but it seems this particular clip didn't get transcribed. Edit: looks like they do have a transcription mentioned elsewhere in the thread. So seems like some kind of UI fail.

danso 6y ago

NPR does transcribe (many, most?) its audio stories, but usually there's a delay of a day or so – the published timestamp for this story is 5:06AM (ET) today. edit: looks like there's a text version of the article. I'm assuming this is a CMS issue: there's an audio story and a "print story", but the former hadn't been linked to the latter: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23628790 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23628790

dhosek 6y ago
They transcribe all their stories. Back before the web was widespread, you could call or write NPR and have them mail a transcript to you.

013a 6y ago

Well, if anyone were going to do it, you'd think no one would be surprised about it being the "National Public Radio"

dvtrn 6y ago
Accessibility still matters, or should still matter even if you’re a radio station, but probably especially if you’re a news radio station.
- scarface74 6y ago
  How many TV shows have audio descriptions of non verbal parts of what you see on screen?
  - dvtrn 6y ago
    More than zero. It's called closed captioning, isn't it? I've quite often seen closed-captioning that put brief written descriptions of non-verbal depictions in bracket, and it's not entirely common either https://www.automaticsync.com/captionsync/what-qualifies-as-high-quality-closed-captioning/ https://www.automaticsync.com/captionsync/what-qualifies-as-... (see section: "High Quality Captioning")
    - scarface74 6y ago
      Close captioning is for people who can’t hear. I am not aware of many TV shows that offer audio commentary for the visually impaired. Here is an example of one that does. https://www.npr.org/2015/04/18/400590705/after-fan-pressure-netflix-makes-daredevil-accessible-to-the-blind https://www.npr.org/2015/04/18/400590705/after-fan-pressure-...
      - dvtrn 6y ago
        Sorry, I thought that since we were originally talking about transcriptions of radio news broadcasts and accessibility for the hard of hearing that closed-captioning would be appropriate and relevant. But your point is well met.
- vermontdevil 6y ago
  NPR is fantastic when it comes to accessibility by providing transcripts. I linked the page thinking the transcript will come later as they usually do. But turns out it was a wrong link. See elsewhere for the correct link.

scarface74 6y ago

Why do radio sites post audio?

ajzinsbwbs 6y ago

Most people are going to hear the story on the radio or in a podcast app / RSS feed. It’s useful to have the story indexed on a shareable web link where it can be played on different platforms without any setup. If I wanted to share a podcast episode with friends in a group chat, a link like this would be a good way to do it. Since this is more of a long-form text discussion forum I’d probably look for a text format before posting here.