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Hello: Macs are about to get interesting again

16 points by theoneill 18y ago

xlnt 18y ago
as much as i like macs, this article doesn't really have any information in it. just hoping for new mac designs.
JoeBlu 18y ago
I sure hope Apple give him plenty of cash for that blow job.
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st3fan 18y ago
This dude is a little late. Macs have been interesting since the release of OS X and have been really interesting since OS X 10.3 when things finally started to speed up an stabalize.
brfox 18y ago
I personally think that Macs are eating into the Linux crowd. Haven't you noticed that in the past year or two how the buzz over Ubuntu has dwindled, and now all the "cool" developers run around with macs? I wonder what those official stats are.
- ashu 18y ago
  If the Mac can get the apt-get system working really well (not like fink or ports, but really working in a hassle-free way), then I think it will be unbeatable. Right now, I still prefer Linux. It's just a lot better for development work.
- nirmal 18y ago
  I used to be a hardcore linux user, then I got a Macbook. But I got the Macbook for aesthetics. I still run a VM for Ubuntu and use it for most of my development that involves any form of compiling.
- DaniFong 18y ago
  10.5 was quite a step backward [edit: from ubuntu] in terms of development environments. I don't think the battle is over yet :-)
  - kylec 18y ago
    How so?
    - DaniFong 18y ago
      After citing my confusion as to why OSX doesn't have a decent package manager, doesn't ship with apropos, doesn't come with gcc, etc. to my friend Nick, he stated that 10.5 was quite a bit more fussy. I haven't used 10.4, so I can't be sure what has changed, but it's a fairly grumpy environment (for backend development, at least) compared to Ubuntu.
      - kylec 18y ago
        I misinterpreted your comment to mean that 10.5 was a step backwards from 10.4. That said, it is a viable development platform, and Apple does provide gcc with XCode. If you want a package manager, there's Fink available. As far as apropos, I've never used it so I don't know. My personal setup is the best of both worlds: work on a Mac and SSH to a Linux server when needed.
      - gaius 18y ago
        Is apropos not just "man -k"? OSX does come with gcc, it's in Xcode. That's not (IIRC) installed by default but installation is just a matter of dragging a folder off the DVD you get in the box. I expect that if you were using OSX to develop WebObjects apps to run on OSX Server, it would kick ass. If you are targeting LAMP I agree it has (few) advantages over Linux.
      - zenspider 18y ago
        "After citing my confusion as to why OSX doesn't have a decent package manager, doesn't ship with apropos, doesn't come with gcc, etc." wrong: macports or fink. wrong: apropos apropos: apropos(1) - search the whatis database for strings wrong: gcc -v: gcc version 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5465) Maybe you could actually TRY things before you make completely false claims that you haven't bothered to test... There is nothing "fussy" about it... I don't even really know what that means. 10.5 ships with xcode just like (pretty much) all the iterations before it. I think 10.0 was the only one to not include it.
- tx 18y ago
  They probably have Ubuntu running on them anyway... :)
palish 18y ago
"That means that when not rendering 3-D graphics, [Larrabee] can also add a few dozen processing cores to pump up performance in all regards." This statement is incredibly naive. Let's not get swept away on a wave of hype.
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16 points by theoneill 18y ago

xlnt 18y ago

as much as i like macs, this article doesn't really have any information in it. just hoping for new mac designs.

JoeBlu 18y ago

I sure hope Apple give him plenty of cash for that blow job.

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st3fan 18y ago

This dude is a little late. Macs have been interesting since the release of OS X and have been really interesting since OS X 10.3 when things finally started to speed up an stabalize.

brfox 18y ago

I personally think that Macs are eating into the Linux crowd. Haven't you noticed that in the past year or two how the buzz over Ubuntu has dwindled, and now all the "cool" developers run around with macs? I wonder what those official stats are.

ashu 18y ago
If the Mac can get the apt-get system working really well (not like fink or ports, but really working in a hassle-free way), then I think it will be unbeatable. Right now, I still prefer Linux. It's just a lot better for development work.
nirmal 18y ago
I used to be a hardcore linux user, then I got a Macbook. But I got the Macbook for aesthetics. I still run a VM for Ubuntu and use it for most of my development that involves any form of compiling.
DaniFong 18y ago
10.5 was quite a step backward [edit: from ubuntu] in terms of development environments. I don't think the battle is over yet :-)
- kylec 18y ago
  How so?
  - DaniFong 18y ago
    After citing my confusion as to why OSX doesn't have a decent package manager, doesn't ship with apropos, doesn't come with gcc, etc. to my friend Nick, he stated that 10.5 was quite a bit more fussy. I haven't used 10.4, so I can't be sure what has changed, but it's a fairly grumpy environment (for backend development, at least) compared to Ubuntu.
    - kylec 18y ago
      I misinterpreted your comment to mean that 10.5 was a step backwards from 10.4. That said, it is a viable development platform, and Apple does provide gcc with XCode. If you want a package manager, there's Fink available. As far as apropos, I've never used it so I don't know. My personal setup is the best of both worlds: work on a Mac and SSH to a Linux server when needed.
    - gaius 18y ago
      Is apropos not just "man -k"? OSX does come with gcc, it's in Xcode. That's not (IIRC) installed by default but installation is just a matter of dragging a folder off the DVD you get in the box. I expect that if you were using OSX to develop WebObjects apps to run on OSX Server, it would kick ass. If you are targeting LAMP I agree it has (few) advantages over Linux.
    - zenspider 18y ago
      "After citing my confusion as to why OSX doesn't have a decent package manager, doesn't ship with apropos, doesn't come with gcc, etc." wrong: macports or fink. wrong: apropos apropos: apropos(1) - search the whatis database for strings wrong: gcc -v: gcc version 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5465) Maybe you could actually TRY things before you make completely false claims that you haven't bothered to test... There is nothing "fussy" about it... I don't even really know what that means. 10.5 ships with xcode just like (pretty much) all the iterations before it. I think 10.0 was the only one to not include it.
tx 18y ago
They probably have Ubuntu running on them anyway... :)

palish 18y ago

"That means that when not rendering 3-D graphics, [Larrabee] can also add a few dozen processing cores to pump up performance in all regards." This statement is incredibly naive. Let's not get swept away on a wave of hype.

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