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> Progress has been slow going, in large part because commercial entities desperately want access to the full registration data of domains – which includes peop

> Progress has been slow going, in large part because commercial entities desperately want access to the full registration data of domains – which includes people’s home addresses, telephone numbers and email addresses – and have been trying to find ways around the privacy protections. Ouch. This is going to make it very hard for people to host content on the web anonymously, forcing them to link their entire identity to their website. This sucks.

hjnilsson 6y ago
Hm? It is changing from a system were it is very hard to host content anonymously to one where it is (domains currently require full name, address, phone and email to register). Not the other way around.
- Xelbair 6y ago
  Depends on the country - you do need to provide full info to theregistar.. but they cannot share that if you are a private person - at least over here.
Santosh83 6y ago
Some ccTLDs even make it impossible to use privacy protection the last time I read about the matter, like for example the .in ccTLD. The next logical step will be to link whois records with your national digital ID. It will probably happen eventually, as most govts and corporations seem determined to destroy privacy while providing a thin illusion of it.
- smolder 6y ago
  Yes, there is a concerted effort by wealthy string pullers to invade every facet of the little people's lives so that we have no recourse when we're eventually stripped of our remaining rights by the captured government. We'll have to swear fealty to neo-feudalist lords for protection. See: Cato institute politics.
  - throwawaysea 6y ago
    Is it just the wealthy? In the age of cancel culture I also see individuals scouting every facet of other individuals’ lives, looking to doxx them or out them as failing some purity test. Deplatforming for political gain also is an anti privacy position. I feel like everyone, not just big corporations, is waging these battles.
    - smolder 6y ago
      It's just the wealthy who are bankrolling the capture and dismantling of government, yes. If you haven't noticed, wealthy people/corps have the most influence on policy. Deplatforming is something that happens in the realm of entertainment-politics, where the goal appears to be angering or appeasing mobs to keep people distracted from important policy issues and divided on the rest.
hnarn 6y ago
Are you really forced to enter correct personal information for all domains, regardless of TLD and registrar?
- gear54rus 6y ago
  I imagine your bank card payments may be somehow traced to your own identity but don't quote me on that. I guess some crypto options might help that.
  - hnarn 6y ago
    Surely Whois information does not include detailed information about past payments?
    - koheripbal 6y ago
      No, but as long as a payment to a CC is going through, then the registrar assumes you are "identified".
  - throwaway_jobs 6y ago
    I have accomplished anonymity in this respect (payment tracking) by purchasing visa gift cards with cash and registering a domain with said gift card. I’m still sure I could be identified somehow. Funny enough I was planning to do something along the lines of an ICO through this anonymous website/page and provide the ICO funds and transfer the domain itself to whoever identified me as the domain owner.
- ceejayoz 6y ago
  Yes. https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/contact-verification-2013-05-03-en https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/contact-verification-2... > The Whois Accuracy Program Specification of the 2013 Registrar Accreditation Agreement (RAA) requires registrars to validate and verify certain Whois data fields, which may include contacting you by phone, email or postal mail. Registrars must suspend or delete domain names that are not timely verified.
voidmain0001 6y ago
Time to use a proxy. https://njal.la/ https://njal.la/
ponsin 6y ago
That gives me an idea. A privacy oriented NGO could create an address and agree to publicly upload all letters received and allow the users to read the mail anonymously.

hjnilsson 6y ago

Hm? It is changing from a system were it is very hard to host content anonymously to one where it is (domains currently require full name, address, phone and email to register). Not the other way around.

Xelbair 6y ago
Depends on the country - you do need to provide full info to theregistar.. but they cannot share that if you are a private person - at least over here.

Santosh83 6y ago

Some ccTLDs even make it impossible to use privacy protection the last time I read about the matter, like for example the .in ccTLD. The next logical step will be to link whois records with your national digital ID. It will probably happen eventually, as most govts and corporations seem determined to destroy privacy while providing a thin illusion of it.

smolder 6y ago
Yes, there is a concerted effort by wealthy string pullers to invade every facet of the little people's lives so that we have no recourse when we're eventually stripped of our remaining rights by the captured government. We'll have to swear fealty to neo-feudalist lords for protection. See: Cato institute politics.
- throwawaysea 6y ago
  Is it just the wealthy? In the age of cancel culture I also see individuals scouting every facet of other individuals’ lives, looking to doxx them or out them as failing some purity test. Deplatforming for political gain also is an anti privacy position. I feel like everyone, not just big corporations, is waging these battles.
  - smolder 6y ago
    It's just the wealthy who are bankrolling the capture and dismantling of government, yes. If you haven't noticed, wealthy people/corps have the most influence on policy. Deplatforming is something that happens in the realm of entertainment-politics, where the goal appears to be angering or appeasing mobs to keep people distracted from important policy issues and divided on the rest.

hnarn 6y ago

Are you really forced to enter correct personal information for all domains, regardless of TLD and registrar?

gear54rus 6y ago
I imagine your bank card payments may be somehow traced to your own identity but don't quote me on that. I guess some crypto options might help that.
- hnarn 6y ago
  Surely Whois information does not include detailed information about past payments?
  - koheripbal 6y ago
    No, but as long as a payment to a CC is going through, then the registrar assumes you are "identified".
- throwaway_jobs 6y ago
  I have accomplished anonymity in this respect (payment tracking) by purchasing visa gift cards with cash and registering a domain with said gift card. I’m still sure I could be identified somehow. Funny enough I was planning to do something along the lines of an ICO through this anonymous website/page and provide the ICO funds and transfer the domain itself to whoever identified me as the domain owner.
ceejayoz 6y ago
Yes. https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/contact-verification-2013-05-03-en https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/contact-verification-2... > The Whois Accuracy Program Specification of the 2013 Registrar Accreditation Agreement (RAA) requires registrars to validate and verify certain Whois data fields, which may include contacting you by phone, email or postal mail. Registrars must suspend or delete domain names that are not timely verified.

voidmain0001 6y ago

Time to use a proxy. https://njal.la/ https://njal.la/

ponsin 6y ago

That gives me an idea. A privacy oriented NGO could create an address and agree to publicly upload all letters received and allow the users to read the mail anonymously.