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Seriously, a lot of this is just not the case in any sort of real, lived, day to day experience kind of way. And please, if you haven’t been here, why are you

Seriously, a lot of this is just not the case in any sort of real, lived, day to day experience kind of way. And please, if you haven’t been here, why are you making all these statements about this place you’ve never seen? It feels very aggressive and critical of the country where I live. It is basically hate speech.

jiggawatts 6y ago
The black lives matter protest -- which are primarily a reaction to police violence and racial profiling -- have been a on the news here every day for weeks. I also know of the Rodney King Riots, just to name another similar incident off the top of my head. I live in Australia. Name one incident with our police that made the national news in the US, off the top of your head. (Using Google is cheating!) When I turn on the evening news here, I see US police violence against our journalists: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/channel-7-journalists-assaulted-police-george-floyd-protesters/12312056 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/channel-7-journalists... I see our citizens being outright murdered by police, despite being white and blonde: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Justine_Damond https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Justine_Damond The last local police killing that I'm aware of was this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindt_Cafe_siege https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindt_Cafe_siege There was also some incident in the last year or so that looked like suicide by police. I felt bad for the officer involved, and apparently they had to get counselling because they were so distraught afterwards. Meanwhile we're hearing about US police forces killing people roughly weekly during the protests against excessive police violence. It's flabbergasting that you think these facts are hate speech. This criticism is warranted. Certainly, many hundreds of thousands of your countrymen agree, loudly.
zenexer 6y ago
I am a white American who never even travelled outside the country until I was an adult. The very first time I had to cross the border, I ran into issues. It’s very real, no matter how American you are. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23626963 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23626963 I’ve been harassed by police in other contexts when they followed protocol incorrectly and tried to cover their asses. Lawyers tend to sort that out quickly, but what about people who can’t afford lawyers? At the same time, I’ve had police officers help me and my family, and I’ve generally gotten along quite well with law enforcement. But in all these situations, they weren’t acting as LEOs; they were acting as social services.

jiggawatts 6y ago

The black lives matter protest -- which are primarily a reaction to police violence and racial profiling -- have been a on the news here every day for weeks. I also know of the Rodney King Riots, just to name another similar incident off the top of my head. I live in Australia. Name one incident with our police that made the national news in the US, off the top of your head. (Using Google is cheating!) When I turn on the evening news here, I see US police violence against our journalists: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/channel-7-journalists-assaulted-police-george-floyd-protesters/12312056 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/channel-7-journalists... I see our citizens being outright murdered by police, despite being white and blonde: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Justine_Damond https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Justine_Damond The last local police killing that I'm aware of was this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindt_Cafe_siege https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindt_Cafe_siege There was also some incident in the last year or so that looked like suicide by police. I felt bad for the officer involved, and apparently they had to get counselling because they were so distraught afterwards. Meanwhile we're hearing about US police forces killing people roughly weekly during the protests against excessive police violence. It's flabbergasting that you think these facts are hate speech. This criticism is warranted. Certainly, many hundreds of thousands of your countrymen agree, loudly.

zenexer 6y ago

I am a white American who never even travelled outside the country until I was an adult. The very first time I had to cross the border, I ran into issues. It’s very real, no matter how American you are. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23626963 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23626963 I’ve been harassed by police in other contexts when they followed protocol incorrectly and tried to cover their asses. Lawyers tend to sort that out quickly, but what about people who can’t afford lawyers? At the same time, I’ve had police officers help me and my family, and I’ve generally gotten along quite well with law enforcement. But in all these situations, they weren’t acting as LEOs; they were acting as social services.