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Agreed. “Normal users” as a group far outnumber both though.

ogre_codes 6y ago
How many people run Parallels outside of development circles? Most users are barely capable of running one computer, let alone a virtual environment with a whole second OS on top. People who rely on Windows software generally run Windows.
- dogma1138 6y ago
  Nearly anyone with a corporate issued Mac... And in fact probably far more corporate users run Parallels/Fusion than developers as there are far far more corporate dependencies on Windows and older Mac OSes if MacOS was always an integral part of your business pipeline than there are developers. Bespoke business software, accounting software, control software and most importantly legacy software people are still running Macromedia software and even older things to be able to pull out and open legacy projects. Sorry to break it to you but just like Linux for desktops - Linux virtualization for Mac is a rounding error. You also seem to not understand how people actually use parallels or fusion they aren’t running or managing guests directly, those are packaged and presented as apps by their IT department. Half if not more of the apps on our Corp App Store for MacOS are packaged like that. When Jane from accounting opens her managed Mac and clicks on Sage Book 2005 or some 20 years old bespoke Oracle Forms application she doesn’t know it runs in a VM likely under Windows and quite possibly even Windows XP. I think you view is really detached from reality since you seem to not know how most businesses run and managed their endpoints. There is a whole industry of abstracting “having to manage their computer” not because most people aren’t capable of doing that but because they weren’t trained to do so and even if they were/are it’s a complete waste of time and resources for them to do so.
  - ogre_codes 6y ago
    > Nearly anyone with a corporate issued Mac. Nope. Worked corporate and the only Mac users with Parallels were devs, and only those who worked on cross platform software. > Linux virtualization for Mac is a rounding error. Also, nope. Docker and Kubernetes both run atop VMs and Docker adoption is quite large in web development. > When Jane from accounting opens her managed Mac and clicks on Sage Book 2005 or some 20 years old bespoke Oracle Forms application she doesn’t know it runs in a VM likely under Windows and quite possibly even Windows XP. I'm sure there are some businesses that run that way, but again, I just escaped corporate life. The folks who had to run Windows apps were just given Windows computers. I'm sure there are some companies where everyone has the option and they run virtualization as you suggest, but I haven't seen any evidence it's anywhere near as ubiquitous in corporations as you suggest.

How many people run Parallels outside of development circles? Most users are barely capable of running one computer, let alone a virtual environment with a whole second OS on top. People who rely on Windows software generally run Windows.

dogma1138 6y ago
Nearly anyone with a corporate issued Mac... And in fact probably far more corporate users run Parallels/Fusion than developers as there are far far more corporate dependencies on Windows and older Mac OSes if MacOS was always an integral part of your business pipeline than there are developers. Bespoke business software, accounting software, control software and most importantly legacy software people are still running Macromedia software and even older things to be able to pull out and open legacy projects. Sorry to break it to you but just like Linux for desktops - Linux virtualization for Mac is a rounding error. You also seem to not understand how people actually use parallels or fusion they aren’t running or managing guests directly, those are packaged and presented as apps by their IT department. Half if not more of the apps on our Corp App Store for MacOS are packaged like that. When Jane from accounting opens her managed Mac and clicks on Sage Book 2005 or some 20 years old bespoke Oracle Forms application she doesn’t know it runs in a VM likely under Windows and quite possibly even Windows XP. I think you view is really detached from reality since you seem to not know how most businesses run and managed their endpoints. There is a whole industry of abstracting “having to manage their computer” not because most people aren’t capable of doing that but because they weren’t trained to do so and even if they were/are it’s a complete waste of time and resources for them to do so.
- ogre_codes 6y ago
  > Nearly anyone with a corporate issued Mac. Nope. Worked corporate and the only Mac users with Parallels were devs, and only those who worked on cross platform software. > Linux virtualization for Mac is a rounding error. Also, nope. Docker and Kubernetes both run atop VMs and Docker adoption is quite large in web development. > When Jane from accounting opens her managed Mac and clicks on Sage Book 2005 or some 20 years old bespoke Oracle Forms application she doesn’t know it runs in a VM likely under Windows and quite possibly even Windows XP. I'm sure there are some businesses that run that way, but again, I just escaped corporate life. The folks who had to run Windows apps were just given Windows computers. I'm sure there are some companies where everyone has the option and they run virtualization as you suggest, but I haven't seen any evidence it's anywhere near as ubiquitous in corporations as you suggest.