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My electric cargo bike gets across town (with multiple passengers) as fast as driving, always gets the best parking, and can do the Home Depot run. You inspired
by jchanimal 6y ago
My electric cargo bike gets across town (with multiple passengers) as fast as driving, always gets the best parking, and can do the Home Depot run. You inspired me to post some photos: https://twitter.com/jchris/status/1275588731353722882?s=21 https://twitter.com/jchris/status/1275588731353722882?s=21
The bike is a Packster 80. The new ones since I bought mine have more power. https://www.splendidcycles.com/products/riese-and-muller/riese-muller-cargo-bikes https://www.splendidcycles.com/products/riese-and-muller/rie...
- jerrysievert 6y agoto be fair, you also live in a city that has been slowly building out bike infrastructure. unrelated, it's been too long - we should grab lunch after this mess starts to settle down :)
- pkulak 6y ago"Slowly" sure is the operative word. But at least it's happening at all.
- TylerE 6y agoThey also cost almost as much as some new cars.
- notagoodidea 6y agoI do not know where you live but in the BeNeLux, as far as I know, getting a new car for less than 10k € is not gonna to happen. Used cars is another story and can be more "competitive" in pricing with e-bikes.
- texuf 6y agoIt's more than half way there https://www.motortrend.com/price/0-15k/ https://www.motortrend.com/price/0-15k/
- kabacha 6y agoLets not pretend that the value is even comparable here. You can get a modern car with safety, speed and reach that is hundred if not thousand times ahead of this electric bike. It's purely a high-class fashion vehicle and there's nothing wrong with that as long as you don't pretend it's something more.
- cheschire 6y agoCars are wildly impractical in much of Benelux. You’re forcing your worldview where it doesn’t fit. The other poster said Home Depot though so is most likely American. Go reply to that person with your myopic views.
- Cthulhu_ 6y ago"wildly" is wildly exaggerated, "the Benelux" is much more than the car-unfriendly urban areas.
- notagoodidea 6y agoAs much as I don't agree with the aggressive tone of the grand-parent post, I tend to find it less a problem outside the urban areas due to the bike roads in the "countryside" more available either in Belgium or the Netherlands. It is also the part of the countries when the need of a car is enhanced due the need to travel way longer distances to reach day-to-day facilities (supermarket, shops, etc.). And yes, different countries, different prices, requirements etc. Comparison is fallacious but taking inspiration of something done in another part of the world and applying it with the constraints of your own environment is always useful. The question of mobility is much centred around the mobility in urban areas of various sizes. I may project here because I used to live in urban areas most of my life.
- mypalmike 6y agoThe value of a tool is how it serves the user's needs. Different users, different situations, different needs.
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- bamboozled 6y agoMan, that's a sweet ride!
- vishnugupta 6y agoIf you like that then checkout Urban Arrow, they are everywhere in the Netherlands. Very popular.
- dr_dshiv 6y agoWe have one! I thought it was super overpriced, but my wife uses it every single day for hauling kids around.
- nogabebop23 6y agothat's because you get to use bike infrastructure and play by bicycle rules but not ride a bicycle. As soon as a large enough group of people did the same everyone on a bike-style coveyance would be stuck in traffic with no place to park.
- acdha 6y agoBikes are considerably more space efficient, especially since drivers have been opting for considerably larger vehicles. The same space a single SUV requires can fit 5+ bicycles, even if they’re larger cargo bikes like the one he’s riding.
- jacquesm 6y agoTry 10+: https://www.utrecht.nl/fileadmin/_processed_/1/b/csm_fietsenstalling-stationsplein-3_b269b074cd.jpg https://www.utrecht.nl/fileadmin/_processed_/1/b/csm_fietsen... That garage holds 12500 bikes!
- acdha 6y agoI was trying to adjust for the size of that R&M bike but you’re right that even the “minivan” of bikes takes up far less space.
- jbay808 6y agoThis is how I see stuff being hauled around in China on a daily basis!
- stickfigure 6y agoThis is an $8,000 bicycle.
- knolax 6y ago$8000 for an electric rickshaw.
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- ikeyany 6y agoYou mean a discussion about the cost-effectiveness of ebikes isn't the time to brag about your fancy ride?
- andbberger 6y agoStill, a lot cheaper than a car. Seems like it's on the high end for ebikes tho
- anonytrary 6y agoCan't compare it to a car without also mentioning the bike's disproportionately (far) lower possible utility.
- TomK32 6y agoAnd the bike's lower maintenance cost which most people should be able to do themselves. Love your ride so much you want to display it in the living room? Can't do that with a car :-D
- ChuckNorris89 6y ago>Love your ride so much you want to display it in the living room? Can't do that with a car :-D You've clearly never seen houses of millionaires. And anyway, I like my bike but since it's always full of dust from the streets or brake pads and even worse when it's raining why would I bring it in the living room, that's just crazy. My bike is tool to get me from A to B, not a hobby to spend my time tinkering with or cleaning every day.
- hellweaver666 6y agoI live in the Netherlands and we have an Urban Arrow electric cargo bike. We frequently use it to ferry around three kids or heavy objects. It's got a range of about 40km and we have a spare battery so we can double that. We've used to to travel to the coast with the kids carrying everything we need for a couple of days away. I love this thing! Funny thing is, when I first saw cargo bikes when I moved here I thought they were super goofy, but after trying one I was blown away at how functional they are. I can just imagine people in my hometown being very confused if we ever take it back to the UK.
- mattlondon 6y agoYou see cargo bikes all the time in London - not sure where your home town is but they are pretty common round my parts.
- adwww 6y agoThere are at least 3 cargo bikes doing the school run at my daughters small primary now. Not in London.
- hellofunk 6y agoEveryone in the Netherlands has one of those, they’re considered pretty ordinary bikes there.
- johnyzee 6y agoThese electric cargo bikes are a hazard. They have a lot of mass and drive really fast, using infrastructure intended for human-powered vehicles. Getting hit by one of these would be not much different than getting hit by a small car, yet they race along narrow bicycle lanes, next to little children learning to drive their bicycles. I hope these get banned soon.
- jasonwatkinspdx 6y agoThis is preposterous. People with cargo ebikes are not randomly plowing into other bikers.
- bluntfang 6y agoGood point, it's not random. According to GP they are happening on multi-purpose paths not made to accommodate motorized vehicles.
- jasonwatkinspdx 6y agoI ride those paths regularly. There is not some epidemic of cargo ebikes plowing into people. Seriously, the whole HN thing of "if I imagine it that must be true" needs some reality checks.
- schwartzworld 6y agois it more believable to think they could hit a pedestrian?
- orbifold 6y agoOne of the few dangerous bike accidents I had involved a eBike. They should require a license to operate, their acceleration and breaking is far less predictable than normal bicycles and 15 year old kids should not be allowed to operate them.