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> what else could explain it? I'm stumped. That's irony, right? It's hard to tell these days.

by kps 6y ago

throwaway894345 6y ago
The only alternative I can imagine is so uncharitable and goes against everything an institution as famously progressive as the Times stands for that I dare not utter its name.
- kps 6y ago
  Walter Duranty has entered the chat
- rndgermandude 6y ago
  You're looking for the word "sexism". Discrimination comes both as "negative" and "positive" (both of which are usually in fact negative). E.g. people saying people of a certain ethnic background are better at math - on the surface a "positive" thing to say, but in fact fostering certain stereotypes and stereotyping people usually hurt a lot of people.
- thu2111 6y ago
  Famously progressive. I guess so. It was the NYT that hired Sarah Jeong and put her on the editorial board: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45052534 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45052534 Famous for saying things like, "Oh man it's kind of sick how much joy I get out of being cruel to old white men" and "Are white people genetically predisposed to burn faster in the sun, thus logically being only fit to live underground like groveling goblins" and "white people marking up the internet with their opinions like dogs pissing on fire hydrants". And when this was pointed out, the NYT stood by her, claiming that in fact it was all because she had been harassed and, "For a period of time she responded to that harassment by imitating the rhetoric of her harassers". One rule for straight white men, another for women is classic NYT. It's not new.
  - banmeagaindan2 6y ago
    The NYT is the most visited website from Stormfront users. What is happening is bigots feed off other bigots. It's a self licking icecream. The evangelical Christian/Jewish/Political Liberal hybrid - who runs the NYT sees 99.9% of Americans as out-groups. It's what happens when contrarianism causes people to inhabit their caricature - Stormfront and the NYT have strange symmetry. It's bigotry with access to better writing skills. You often need to be a member of the in-group to spot the submarines. Scott Alexander is a real Liberal without the pathology and that is why they hate him. He is reminding them of what Liberal ideals used to be and that makes him register as a threat.

> what else could explain it? I'm stumped. That's irony, right? It's hard to tell these days.

by kps 6y ago

> what else could explain it? I'm stumped. That's irony, right? It's hard to tell these days.

The only alternative I can imagine is so uncharitable and goes against everything an institution as famously progressive as the Times stands for that I dare not utter its name.

kps 6y ago
Walter Duranty has entered the chat
rndgermandude 6y ago
You're looking for the word "sexism". Discrimination comes both as "negative" and "positive" (both of which are usually in fact negative). E.g. people saying people of a certain ethnic background are better at math - on the surface a "positive" thing to say, but in fact fostering certain stereotypes and stereotyping people usually hurt a lot of people.
thu2111 6y ago
Famously progressive. I guess so. It was the NYT that hired Sarah Jeong and put her on the editorial board: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45052534 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45052534 Famous for saying things like, "Oh man it's kind of sick how much joy I get out of being cruel to old white men" and "Are white people genetically predisposed to burn faster in the sun, thus logically being only fit to live underground like groveling goblins" and "white people marking up the internet with their opinions like dogs pissing on fire hydrants". And when this was pointed out, the NYT stood by her, claiming that in fact it was all because she had been harassed and, "For a period of time she responded to that harassment by imitating the rhetoric of her harassers". One rule for straight white men, another for women is classic NYT. It's not new.
- banmeagaindan2 6y ago
  The NYT is the most visited website from Stormfront users. What is happening is bigots feed off other bigots. It's a self licking icecream. The evangelical Christian/Jewish/Political Liberal hybrid - who runs the NYT sees 99.9% of Americans as out-groups. It's what happens when contrarianism causes people to inhabit their caricature - Stormfront and the NYT have strange symmetry. It's bigotry with access to better writing skills. You often need to be a member of the in-group to spot the submarines. Scott Alexander is a real Liberal without the pathology and that is why they hate him. He is reminding them of what Liberal ideals used to be and that makes him register as a threat.