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As a long-time Linux on desktop user and tweaker, an early adopter of libinput under X, and an early adopter of Wayland, a historied-user of MBPs with nice touc
by urbeanplayed 6y ago
As a long-time Linux on desktop user and tweaker, an early adopter of libinput under X, and an early adopter of Wayland, a historied-user of MBPs with nice touchpads, and Chromebook Pixels with glass touchpads, I just don't get it. There's still very little concrete information here that gives points to any solid net improvement for anyone using a modern Linux desktop (aka Wayland+libinput, which already support all of the original goals of this project).
If you read the first two blog updates, they're straight out of FAANG PM-speak land. I can just hear the words echoing from a PM who vaguely understands an amalgamation of customer wants, without having any of the technical context of actual customer needs, architectural limitations, alternatives, etc.
And this is exemplified in the nearly useless survey data. It is so poorly sliced, and presented that it's hard to know what was learned. There's no axis for X/Wayland, which X input driver was used, what DEs were used, etc. All of these significantly matter in the day-to-day feel of the touchpad considering how libinput is configured.
Frankly, and this blog post more or less implies it, Wayland and libinput address nearly all of the original goals, and the ways in which they don't are either bugs in the drivers/libinput quirks that should be filled and fixed in libinput, or are simply the choices of GTK/Qt toolkits or DE designers and are part of a bigger design discussion that could help establish better defaults across toolkits+DEs.
I just don't see why people are putting their hopes or money on this project. I don't see current, useful-to-Wayland problems being identified or worked on.
Finally, a tip, for wayland + gestures, consider `gebaar-libinput`. And a solid net improvement to libinput (and up the stack) would be "stop scroll events". It's the only thing keeping the scrolling experience in Firefox+wayland+webrender from feeling just as good as Safari on a MBP.