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What do you think is the reason? Some of the arguments that I heard include the suggestion that some of the radical environmental plans may cause serious losses

by hkai 6y ago

What do you think is the reason? Some of the arguments that I heard include the suggestion that some of the radical environmental plans may cause serious losses of jobs and tax revenue, and increase poverty, while other heavy polluters would get ahead and dominate the world's politics and economy.

tonyedgecombe 6y ago
The fact that it is inconvenient doesn't invalidate the reality.
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travisporter 6y ago
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!" - Upton Sinclair But more charitably, I could also see people going past worrying to denial/dismissal
- soupfordummies 6y ago
  Very small sample size and a different issue to be sure, but with people I've interacted with that dispute the validity/importance of the Coronavirus, they are being driven primarily by denial/dismissal. To accept it and and work from there to adapt and mitigate is terrifying. I think you can probably say the same about climate change. Additionally, I think you could draw a line that these denials are influenced by those protecting their "salaries"
- fortran77 6y ago
  And it checks out, too. https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/11/30/salary/ https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/11/30/salary/
mritun 6y ago
Yes. Coal industry said that. Guess what- the coal industry is going out of business anyway. Those dinosaurs will die anyway - the problem is with “jobs will be lost” argument they are also dragging the future of rest of the humanity with them.
- raarts 6y ago
  Not anytime soon. China, India and other countries are planning a huge number of new coal plants. Just as much capacity as currently installed in Europe in total. Coal's life may be limited, but in the coming 50 years it's just going to grow significantly. https://www.carbonbrief.org/mapped-worlds-coal-power-plants https://www.carbonbrief.org/mapped-worlds-coal-power-plants

by hkai 6y ago

tonyedgecombe 6y ago

The fact that it is inconvenient doesn't invalidate the reality.

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travisporter 6y ago

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!" - Upton Sinclair But more charitably, I could also see people going past worrying to denial/dismissal

soupfordummies 6y ago
Very small sample size and a different issue to be sure, but with people I've interacted with that dispute the validity/importance of the Coronavirus, they are being driven primarily by denial/dismissal. To accept it and and work from there to adapt and mitigate is terrifying. I think you can probably say the same about climate change. Additionally, I think you could draw a line that these denials are influenced by those protecting their "salaries"
fortran77 6y ago
And it checks out, too. https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/11/30/salary/ https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/11/30/salary/

mritun 6y ago

Yes. Coal industry said that. Guess what- the coal industry is going out of business anyway. Those dinosaurs will die anyway - the problem is with “jobs will be lost” argument they are also dragging the future of rest of the humanity with them.

raarts 6y ago
Not anytime soon. China, India and other countries are planning a huge number of new coal plants. Just as much capacity as currently installed in Europe in total. Coal's life may be limited, but in the coming 50 years it's just going to grow significantly. https://www.carbonbrief.org/mapped-worlds-coal-power-plants https://www.carbonbrief.org/mapped-worlds-coal-power-plants