This is what I meant by "objecting wholesale to the Chinese economy", although I could have been clearer. These are all very important problems, but not manufa

This is what I meant by "objecting wholesale to the Chinese economy", although I could have been clearer. These are all very important problems, but not manufacturing problems, they're problems with just living in China. By a similar measure we could say that it's not ethical to work for Patagonia because the US police regularly execute people of colour, or because abortion is effectively illegal in many states. I don't think these are useful arguments to make in this context, I think it's more useful to make them as their own thing. The ethical production I was talking about was more in terms of "sweat shops". It's likely in China that a worker in a factory is going to be paid enough to not be below the poverty line, is going to have no real problems with food or water. Also while their working environment isn't going to be up to the safety standards of Europe, it's unlikely that they will be very actively dangerous day to day.