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I don’t mind the stoplight. I do mind Apple repurposing the god damned zoom button for fullscreen, requiring I hold option every time or having to install third

I don’t mind the stoplight. I do mind Apple repurposing the god damned zoom button for fullscreen, requiring I hold option every time or having to install third party tools for what should be at worst a freaking plist change.

SllX 6y ago
A circle given the same height provides a smaller pointer target than a square. The stoplight was also a downgrade over the shapes, positioning and functionality of the Mac OS 9 window controls. Stickies still uses these controls by the way, if you want to see what it is like. Close is all the way over on the left and its a box, I would prefer an X ("batsu"), but it's a box. WindowShade-style minimize is all the way over on the right, and Zoom, well it's the triangle but its been degraded in functionality. At this point it's maximize and revert, provided you don't resize it from its maximized state. Re: Zoom. Maybe you already know this, but just in case you don't, double click the titlebar. Even works in Safari, although there's less "titlebar" to work with. If you already know all that, well, maybe it will help someone else reading through the thread. That said I did use BetterTouchTool to modify its behavior because I too was frustrated with changing functional behavior and I recently bought a three button mouse to use in addition to my other input methods, but I decided to make it default Zoom, but middle click Full Screen. You can also set a keyboard shortcut if you like in the Keyboard settings (no third party software required) within System Preferences. Just go to App Shortcuts, All Applications, add a shortcut, for the Menu Title type Zoom and then just record your shortcut.
- armandhammer 6y ago
  >A circle given the same height provides a smaller pointer target than a square. To be fair, the click target of the traffic light circles isn't limited to the actual drawn pixels. You can click a fair few pixels outside of it and still get the same result (basically wherever the hover state activates).
  - SllX 6y ago
    Yes but given the same margin for error, a square would still be a bigger target. The stoplight was a pure aesthetic choice, I would have preferred more functional choices, but it was probably the right call at the time to go for aesthetics. A new aesthetic on a new operating system, that’s exciting, that gets people talking. That said, it’s one of the last elements of Aqua that has remained almost entirely untouched, through pinstripes, brushed metal, stitched leather and now apparently, iOS 7 Strikes Back or whatever we’re going to call it in Mac OS XI.

SllX 6y ago

A circle given the same height provides a smaller pointer target than a square. The stoplight was also a downgrade over the shapes, positioning and functionality of the Mac OS 9 window controls. Stickies still uses these controls by the way, if you want to see what it is like. Close is all the way over on the left and its a box, I would prefer an X ("batsu"), but it's a box. WindowShade-style minimize is all the way over on the right, and Zoom, well it's the triangle but its been degraded in functionality. At this point it's maximize and revert, provided you don't resize it from its maximized state. Re: Zoom. Maybe you already know this, but just in case you don't, double click the titlebar. Even works in Safari, although there's less "titlebar" to work with. If you already know all that, well, maybe it will help someone else reading through the thread. That said I did use BetterTouchTool to modify its behavior because I too was frustrated with changing functional behavior and I recently bought a three button mouse to use in addition to my other input methods, but I decided to make it default Zoom, but middle click Full Screen. You can also set a keyboard shortcut if you like in the Keyboard settings (no third party software required) within System Preferences. Just go to App Shortcuts, All Applications, add a shortcut, for the Menu Title type Zoom and then just record your shortcut.

armandhammer 6y ago
>A circle given the same height provides a smaller pointer target than a square. To be fair, the click target of the traffic light circles isn't limited to the actual drawn pixels. You can click a fair few pixels outside of it and still get the same result (basically wherever the hover state activates).
- SllX 6y ago
  Yes but given the same margin for error, a square would still be a bigger target. The stoplight was a pure aesthetic choice, I would have preferred more functional choices, but it was probably the right call at the time to go for aesthetics. A new aesthetic on a new operating system, that’s exciting, that gets people talking. That said, it’s one of the last elements of Aqua that has remained almost entirely untouched, through pinstripes, brushed metal, stitched leather and now apparently, iOS 7 Strikes Back or whatever we’re going to call it in Mac OS XI.