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> The H-1B is a nonimmigrant visa, Again, it’s dual intent and is functionally the only way for skilled immigrants to get green cards to become citizens outsid

> The H-1B is a nonimmigrant visa, Again, it’s dual intent and is functionally the only way for skilled immigrants to get green cards to become citizens outside of family unification (which the admin also wants to abolish).

dragonwriter 6y ago
> Again, it’s dual intent “Dual intent” refers to a nonimmigrant visa which does not prohibit applicants from intending to apply for an immigrant visa without leaving the country when they apply for the nobimmigrant visa (suspicion of this “immigration intent” is grounds for denying other nonimmigrant visas.) > and is functionally the only way for skilled immigrants to get green cards It's not a way for anyone to get a green card, which you can only do with an immigrant visa. It is, however, a way to get into the US while trying to qualify for an immigrant visa. (Or while already qualified for one for which there is a long delay.)
- akhilcacharya 6y ago
  You’re not contradicting me. It’s one of the few legal pathways to citizenship (and the most accessible) for an entire class of people.
  - dragonwriter 6y ago
    > You’re not contradicting me I wasn't aware we were playing a game of contradiction, but you were not contradicting me before I started not contradicting you, so I'm not sure why you are pointing that out.
    - NovemberWhiskey 6y ago
      For those who are baffled by this (I think this is right...) An immigrant visa is one that permits (in principle, perhaps subject to removal of conditions) lawful permanent residency in the U.S. A green card is a document that proves immigration status as a lawful permanent resident. You don’t need actually to have received an immigrant visa to be a lawful permanent resident because you can also achieve that through adjustment of status. A non-immigrant visa is one that does not permit permanent residency. A non-immigrant visa that permits dual-intent is one that can be held concurrently with an application for an immigrant visa or for adjustment of status to a category of permanent resident.
    - esoterica 6y ago
      You brought up the fact that the H-1B is a nonimmigrant visa when I mentioned that it was how many skilled immigrants entered the country (while waiting to become eligible for a green card). If you were not trying to contradict me, then you were raising an entirely irrelevant point and not contributing to the conversation.

dragonwriter 6y ago

> Again, it’s dual intent “Dual intent” refers to a nonimmigrant visa which does not prohibit applicants from intending to apply for an immigrant visa without leaving the country when they apply for the nobimmigrant visa (suspicion of this “immigration intent” is grounds for denying other nonimmigrant visas.) > and is functionally the only way for skilled immigrants to get green cards It's not a way for anyone to get a green card, which you can only do with an immigrant visa. It is, however, a way to get into the US while trying to qualify for an immigrant visa. (Or while already qualified for one for which there is a long delay.)

akhilcacharya 6y ago
You’re not contradicting me. It’s one of the few legal pathways to citizenship (and the most accessible) for an entire class of people.
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > You’re not contradicting me I wasn't aware we were playing a game of contradiction, but you were not contradicting me before I started not contradicting you, so I'm not sure why you are pointing that out.
  - NovemberWhiskey 6y ago
    For those who are baffled by this (I think this is right...) An immigrant visa is one that permits (in principle, perhaps subject to removal of conditions) lawful permanent residency in the U.S. A green card is a document that proves immigration status as a lawful permanent resident. You don’t need actually to have received an immigrant visa to be a lawful permanent resident because you can also achieve that through adjustment of status. A non-immigrant visa is one that does not permit permanent residency. A non-immigrant visa that permits dual-intent is one that can be held concurrently with an application for an immigrant visa or for adjustment of status to a category of permanent resident.
  - esoterica 6y ago
    You brought up the fact that the H-1B is a nonimmigrant visa when I mentioned that it was how many skilled immigrants entered the country (while waiting to become eligible for a green card). If you were not trying to contradict me, then you were raising an entirely irrelevant point and not contributing to the conversation.