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there are many good reasons for wanting more women developers, IMO. are there any bad reasons for wanting such? this is not a flip comment. if it causes a laugh

there are many good reasons for wanting more women developers, IMO. are there any bad reasons for wanting such? this is not a flip comment. if it causes a laugh i dont see a problem with that but it is honestly not intended to denigrate anyone, but bring people into, well, software, which is probably the greatest thing in existence. diversity is generally considered a good thing in evolution. i dont know if that applies to concepts like the tech industry, but maybe it does. i am not against anyone and think the universe of software is a big one with a ton of room. software is not created in a vacuum, nor is any other art or form. i want us all doing it, not just a bunch of people like me in every way.

jlawson 6y ago
>are there any bad reasons for wanting such? -to signal virtue for PR purposes -to expand hiring pools and thus drive down wages -to get more sexual partners -to create leverage points for internal politics (e.g. opportunities to accuse political opponents of sexism) Perhaps you were actually asking about bad outcomes, not reasons: -women are rationally perceived as less competent after they were given preference during hiring -women who would have been happier in another field are encouraged into tech where they are less happy than they would have been in medicine, or law, or marketing, or at home -women who aren't up to the task are admitted; the mismatch sets them up for failure where they could have succeeded and had better personal outcomes in another job Both my above lists are offhand samples.
globular-toast 6y ago
People like you are destroying this field. I just can't believe how sheltered and naïve you all are. It's like you've been raised in a bubble, never learnt anything that children are supposed to learn, and now you're an adult earning money, still living in that bubble. It's plain as day that you're lonely. You lack female companionship and the only thing you understand is the bubble so naturally you think the solution is to get women into your bubble.
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jlawson 6y ago

>are there any bad reasons for wanting such? -to signal virtue for PR purposes -to expand hiring pools and thus drive down wages -to get more sexual partners -to create leverage points for internal politics (e.g. opportunities to accuse political opponents of sexism) Perhaps you were actually asking about bad outcomes, not reasons: -women are rationally perceived as less competent after they were given preference during hiring -women who would have been happier in another field are encouraged into tech where they are less happy than they would have been in medicine, or law, or marketing, or at home -women who aren't up to the task are admitted; the mismatch sets them up for failure where they could have succeeded and had better personal outcomes in another job Both my above lists are offhand samples.

globular-toast 6y ago

People like you are destroying this field. I just can't believe how sheltered and naïve you all are. It's like you've been raised in a bubble, never learnt anything that children are supposed to learn, and now you're an adult earning money, still living in that bubble. It's plain as day that you're lonely. You lack female companionship and the only thing you understand is the bubble so naturally you think the solution is to get women into your bubble.

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