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Is there some idea you'd like to share?

by kovek 6y ago

davidw 6y ago
Immigrants are a net positive for the economy!
- _nhynes 6y ago
  Indeed. A.S. G^2P was meant to chide the current administration for the (clearly very political) travel bans [0], temporary (??) suspension of visas (incl. H1-B) [1], and general racist isolationism. [0]: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/proclamation-suspension-entry-immigrants-nonimmigrants-persons-pose-risk-transmitting-2019-novel-coronavirus/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/proclamation... [1]: https://www.npr.org/2020/06/20/881245867/trump-expected-to-suspend-h-1b-other-visas-until-end-of-year https://www.npr.org/2020/06/20/881245867/trump-expected-to-s...
  - ThomPete 6y ago
    For what it's worth H1Bs were being misused by indian tech companies who got the majority of them [1] because the salary requirements haden't been updated for decades [2] That meant the ability to undercut american workers. I don't think there is anything racist about that. [1] https://www.economist.com/united-states/2017/02/09/h-1b-visas-do-mainly-go-to-indian-outsourcing-firms https://www.economist.com/united-states/2017/02/09/h-1b-visa... [2] https://alj.artrepreneur.com/h1b-visa-crackdown/#:~:text=Currently%2C%20to%20qualify%20for%20an,a%20minimum%20of%20%24130%2C000%20annually https://alj.artrepreneur.com/h1b-visa-crackdown/#:~:text=Cur....
  - layoutIfNeeded 6y ago
    Racist? I’m a white European - where do I sign up for my visa?
- dhosek 6y ago
  In 1993, the California Republican Assembly (a conservative activist group chartered by the state party) passed a resolution declaring illegal immigration to be an economic positive for the state of California. A year later the party decided to go all-in on anti-immigration hysteria and paid for some disturbingly racist ads ("they keep coming"). This gave them short-term gains politically but by the 2010s the Republican party fell into permanent minority status with little prospect for even reaching the level to keep the democrats out of supermajority status in the near-term future.
  - drocer88 6y ago
    Ralph Abernathy and Walter Mondale supported Ceasar Chavez's marches to fight against illegal immigration. Ronald Reagan had no problems with using such strikebreakers
knrz 6y ago
Assuming positive intent, I think he meant “and that’s why we should encourage immigration”
- CameronNemo 6y ago
  Such a charged issue should have been accompanied by a more thoughtful comment. davidw was begging for misinterpretation.
texasbigdata 6y ago
It's a recycled idea from mary meeker. She appendixes immigrant founder lists to her internet report. It's very impressive and has some real societal implications (perhaps) for how we should address immigration policy.

Is there some idea you'd like to share?

by kovek 6y ago

Is there some idea you'd like to share?

davidw 6y ago

Immigrants are a net positive for the economy!

_nhynes 6y ago
Indeed. A.S. G^2P was meant to chide the current administration for the (clearly very political) travel bans [0], temporary (??) suspension of visas (incl. H1-B) [1], and general racist isolationism. [0]: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/proclamation-suspension-entry-immigrants-nonimmigrants-persons-pose-risk-transmitting-2019-novel-coronavirus/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/proclamation... [1]: https://www.npr.org/2020/06/20/881245867/trump-expected-to-suspend-h-1b-other-visas-until-end-of-year https://www.npr.org/2020/06/20/881245867/trump-expected-to-s...
- ThomPete 6y ago
  For what it's worth H1Bs were being misused by indian tech companies who got the majority of them [1] because the salary requirements haden't been updated for decades [2] That meant the ability to undercut american workers. I don't think there is anything racist about that. [1] https://www.economist.com/united-states/2017/02/09/h-1b-visas-do-mainly-go-to-indian-outsourcing-firms https://www.economist.com/united-states/2017/02/09/h-1b-visa... [2] https://alj.artrepreneur.com/h1b-visa-crackdown/#:~:text=Currently%2C%20to%20qualify%20for%20an,a%20minimum%20of%20%24130%2C000%20annually https://alj.artrepreneur.com/h1b-visa-crackdown/#:~:text=Cur....
- layoutIfNeeded 6y ago
  Racist? I’m a white European - where do I sign up for my visa?
dhosek 6y ago
In 1993, the California Republican Assembly (a conservative activist group chartered by the state party) passed a resolution declaring illegal immigration to be an economic positive for the state of California. A year later the party decided to go all-in on anti-immigration hysteria and paid for some disturbingly racist ads ("they keep coming"). This gave them short-term gains politically but by the 2010s the Republican party fell into permanent minority status with little prospect for even reaching the level to keep the democrats out of supermajority status in the near-term future.
- drocer88 6y ago
  Ralph Abernathy and Walter Mondale supported Ceasar Chavez's marches to fight against illegal immigration. Ronald Reagan had no problems with using such strikebreakers

knrz 6y ago

Assuming positive intent, I think he meant “and that’s why we should encourage immigration”

CameronNemo 6y ago
Such a charged issue should have been accompanied by a more thoughtful comment. davidw was begging for misinterpretation.

texasbigdata 6y ago

It's a recycled idea from mary meeker. She appendixes immigrant founder lists to her internet report. It's very impressive and has some real societal implications (perhaps) for how we should address immigration policy.