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I think your analysis is dead on, the only thing I'm surprised by is that Facebook has some sort of FB Gaming streaming platform. I don't really use Facebook,

I think your analysis is dead on, the only thing I'm surprised by is that Facebook has some sort of FB Gaming streaming platform. I don't really use Facebook, but I watch a fair number of twitch streamers and let's plays and whatnot on YouTube and I've never once heard anyone mention FB Gaming.

o-__-o 6y ago
1 Facebook owns Oculus 2 Remember FarmVille or Plants vs Zombies?
- blackearl 6y ago
  Regardless of who owns Oculus, most streamers are on Twitch. I don't see how Farmville is relevant. Mobile games and Twitch streams don't see to be anything alike.
  - elif 6y ago
    No most streamers have given up already because without a network effect it can take a decade to turn a profit. Letting streamers utilize their existing social network is a potential game change for early channel growth.
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  - slightwinder 6y ago
    > I don't see how Farmville is relevant. Mobile games and Twitch streams don't see to be anything alike. Exactly. FB Gaming seems to be very focused on Mobile Games and other typical Facebook-Games (makes sense), not so much on Console and PC-Games. Considering the culture of users it also makes sense. Facebook is more for casual games, who play something on the side, but don't give much for the whole culture, dedication and stuff. Twitch is more embracing the whole core-gamer-culture and youth, making it quite hard to be accessable for everyone else.
thundermuffin 6y ago
A year or two ago FB partnered with a Counter-Strike tournament organizer (ESL) for exclusive streaming rights, and that was probably the most high profile partnership I've ever seen associated with it. It definitely did not go well for them, though; the community were not fans and they promptly went back to Twitch after their year was up. They had to have paid a pretty penny to get that deal inked!
binthere 6y ago
Thing is, Facebook is just forcing views by showing a live stream on people's feed. This alone makes it grow exponentially. It also solves the biggest problem Twitch has at the moment: not being able to promote lesser known streamers. I've see plenty of unknown people streaming on Facebook with 100+ viewers. This is actually good for streamers.

o-__-o 6y ago

1 Facebook owns Oculus 2 Remember FarmVille or Plants vs Zombies?

blackearl 6y ago
Regardless of who owns Oculus, most streamers are on Twitch. I don't see how Farmville is relevant. Mobile games and Twitch streams don't see to be anything alike.
- elif 6y ago
  No most streamers have given up already because without a network effect it can take a decade to turn a profit. Letting streamers utilize their existing social network is a potential game change for early channel growth.
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- slightwinder 6y ago
  > I don't see how Farmville is relevant. Mobile games and Twitch streams don't see to be anything alike. Exactly. FB Gaming seems to be very focused on Mobile Games and other typical Facebook-Games (makes sense), not so much on Console and PC-Games. Considering the culture of users it also makes sense. Facebook is more for casual games, who play something on the side, but don't give much for the whole culture, dedication and stuff. Twitch is more embracing the whole core-gamer-culture and youth, making it quite hard to be accessable for everyone else.

thundermuffin 6y ago

A year or two ago FB partnered with a Counter-Strike tournament organizer (ESL) for exclusive streaming rights, and that was probably the most high profile partnership I've ever seen associated with it. It definitely did not go well for them, though; the community were not fans and they promptly went back to Twitch after their year was up. They had to have paid a pretty penny to get that deal inked!

binthere 6y ago

Thing is, Facebook is just forcing views by showing a live stream on people's feed. This alone makes it grow exponentially. It also solves the biggest problem Twitch has at the moment: not being able to promote lesser known streamers. I've see plenty of unknown people streaming on Facebook with 100+ viewers. This is actually good for streamers.